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RIP Chester from Linkin Park :( RIP Chester from Linkin Park :(

07-22-2017 , 04:47 PM
rip musician who is absolutely less famous than george michael
07-22-2017 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
Also, if they were relevant whatsoever you wouldn't need the "..from Linkin Park" qualifier. Although the fact that I'm posting about it says something about me as a person.
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
My bad. I didn't realize Linkin Park was a band people actually cared about.
You came in here after 10+ people had stated that it affected them. I get it you want to be edgy af, you are such a cool guy. On a poker forum no less which makes me think you aren't the average 16-year-old Youtub edgelord but probably an adult dude with a job and bills to pay. If that is true, you should probably revaluate on why you spend time making this type of posts.

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Originally Posted by cs3
This thread is a perfect example of why separate threads for celebrity deaths, regardless of their popularity, shouldn't be allowed.
Inevitably there will be a handful of people who really care, a majority of people who are like meh so what, and a handful of people who say something to piss off the people who care, leading to a bunch of hurty feelings and arguing about how important a celebrity the person is.
And that usually happens several times in each thread.
The problem imo is that people just like to complain too much. People have to complain about pretty much everything that irritates them. While everything would work a lot better if people showed some restraint. When something irritates you, ask yourself "is it worth my time complaining about this?" and "should I care that this was created/posted/discussed/...?". If the answer to both is "no", just move on. But because people don't do this every social media discussion eventually leads to boring unrelated discussions like "why is this news?", "who cares about this?", "wow this sucks", etc. It ruins everything for everyone.

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Originally Posted by H0RUS
Extremely selfish for this guy to kill himself given he has 6 kids with the youngest being 5 year old twin girls. Now the burden lays on people around them to raise them and eventually explain what their father did.

Once again extremely selfish.
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
Dude leaves the responsibility of 6 kids to other people and instead of calling a spade a spade you guys rather put this guy on a pedestal because he is dead. Id love to hear you guys explain to his kids "daddy had mental illness, its a serious issue but you will understand eventually" smh. Yea ill stop posting because im obviously the only one here who isnt emotionally invested and can post from an outside looking in perspective.
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Lol depression

He was a coward as is anyone who kills themselves.

It's so awful that he had 6 children
I always wonder when I see this type of posts, have you guys ever dealth with mental issues in real life (friends, family, yourself,...)?

I am truly curious about this. I used to also sometimes think stuff like this when I heard about people committing suicide, but I was never sure what to think since I knew very little on the subject of mental illness. Having come in contact multiple times with people I was close with who went from being normal to having serious mental issues changed my opinion completely. It made me realise that when you lose control over your thoughts and emotions for a long period of time, there is really no limit on what people can suddenly do.

If you have had experience with people with serious mental issues, why does that not help you relate or show empathy to people committing suicide?
07-22-2017 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
rip musician who is absolutely less famous than george michael
https://trends.google.nl/trends/expl...,Linkin%20park

George Michael did sell more records than Linkin Park (115m vs 70m), though George Michael's carreer was significantly longer.
07-23-2017 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
I always wonder when I see this type of posts, have you guys ever dealth with mental issues in real life (friends, family, yourself,...)?

I am truly curious about this. I used to also sometimes think stuff like this when I heard about people committing suicide, but I was never sure what to think since I knew very little on the subject of mental illness. Having come in contact multiple times with people I was close with who went from being normal to having serious mental issues changed my opinion completely. It made me realise that when you lose control over your thoughts and emotions for a long period of time, there is really no limit on what people can suddenly do.

If you have had experience with people with serious mental issues, why does that not help you relate or show empathy to people committing suicide?
The dude who offed himself was one of the most privileged people on Earth. A 0.0001%er. Vast piles of money, fame, adoration, love, beautiful women (or men), you name it, he had it or could have it. You want to feel empathy for this clown, who had the world thrown at his feet, while others with nothing at all battle bravely and yet don't kill themselves because they're not selfish?

Dude had six kids. You sack up and hold yourself together if that's the case. You manage your life such that you don't get into a state where you'd kill yourself.
07-23-2017 , 04:21 AM
If you ever reached that state, i'd tell you to do it. **** off dude. Seriously.
07-23-2017 , 05:09 AM
Toothsayer, have you never heard of "mo' money mo' problems"? Mental illness affects rich and poor alike.

Your posting here in general seems to follow a pattern. You reason through something in a way that I'm sure is cogent in your own mind, but having never actually experienced xyz, you have no way of knowing if your premises are in fact true. Then you present your stance as infallible. That does not make you intelligent, it makes you obtuse.

Last edited by samuri8; 07-23-2017 at 05:22 AM.
07-23-2017 , 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
The dude who offed himself was one of the most privileged people on Earth. A 0.0001%er. Vast piles of money, fame, adoration, love, beautiful women (or men), you name it, he had it or could have it. You want to feel empathy for this clown, who had the world thrown at his feet, while others with nothing at all battle bravely and yet don't kill themselves because they're not selfish?

Dude had six kids. You sack up and hold yourself together if that's the case. You manage your life such that you don't get into a state where you'd kill yourself.
You didn't answer my question. Or does your opinion on mental illness not count when someone who had the status of Chester commits suicide? Your opinion that mental illness can only be valid if certain conditions are met shows that you don't accept it as an illness.

Replace "who offed himself" with "died from cancer" in your post to realise how silly/offensive your post sounds to people who do see mental illness like a regular illness.

As for being a 0.0001% / having 6 children / etc. I agree those are things that should work positively for your happiness during good times. But can't you see that this would feel like a gigantic pile of pressure during bad times? And that it would make everything even worse if you have entered in a "irrational, depressed thoughts"-state?
07-23-2017 , 07:26 AM
Cmon, the dude is clearly sixteen, when he's older he'll be like, "Man, I was an idiot on that message board." Tooth, you're lucky you're here, now STFU for a decade and just lurk.
07-23-2017 , 09:55 AM
This whole suicide talk ITT is truly ****ed, some people are just plain idiots.

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Originally Posted by Minimalist
I am in my 20s every group I join all I see in the group are just older people and I see no one in their 20s there and when I join other groups it is still the same thing with people in their 50s and 60s and nobody in their 20s there. It seems people in their 20s don't join any social groups. Why don't people in their 20s don't any social groups?
I have got no friends and I also don't have a girlfriend. I never do meet people my own age.
Needs more love.

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Originally Posted by bbfg
https://trends.google.nl/trends/expl...,Linkin%20park

George Michael did sell more records than Linkin Park (115m vs 70m), though George Michael's carreer was significantly longer.
You seem to think they are somehow in the same league, lol at that. The reason people are complaining about this thread is simple; there are rules, even when a subject is emotional. Forgoing these rules simply because a subject is an emotional one is a recipe for anarchy and god knows what. Although, OOT is ****ed up enough as it is, I guess ****ty threads littering the front page aren't that much of a big deal anymore.
07-23-2017 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
You didn't answer my question. Or does your opinion on mental illness not count when someone who had the status of Chester commits suicide? Your opinion that mental illness can only be valid if certain conditions are met shows that you don't accept it as an illness.
1. Mental illness is horrible, I've had friends with schizophrenia and (real) depression.
2. Mental illness hits all kinds of people from all walks of life.
3. I make the comments regardless.

Let me ask you a question. When someone offs himself, is he ever partly to blame? Or is it always "mental illness"?

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Replace "who offed himself" with "died from cancer" in your post to realise how silly/offensive your post sounds to people who do see mental illness like a regular illness.
Of course mental illness is like a regular illness, when it's an actual physical organic illness (like schizophrenia, or low thyroid hormone levels). It gets murkier when it doesn't fit into that category.

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As for being a 0.0001% / having 6 children / etc. I agree those are things that should work positively for your happiness during good times. But can't you see that this would feel like a gigantic pile of pressure during bad times? And that it would make everything even worse if you have entered in a "irrational, depressed thoughts"-state?
The dude was grieving the likely loss of his gay lover. He killed himself on the birthday of the other guy in the band who killed himself a few months earlier.

Do you ever have a choice on whether to wallow in grief or pull yourself out for the sake of your friends, family, children? Do you admit that there is any choice at all in how we approach things?

I lost a friend to suicide with schizophrenia. I don't blame them at all - it's living hell and I'd wish it on no one. That's a real mental illness suicide that the person could do nothing about.

This guy felt down after losing his very close friend so he offed himself on the birthday of that very close friend. Sounds like self pity and selfishness to me. The dude had 6 kids.
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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
You seem to think they are somehow in the same league, lol at that. The reason people are complaining about this thread is simple; there are rules, even when a subject is emotional. Forgoing these rules simply because a subject is an emotional one is a recipe for anarchy and god knows what. Although, OOT is ****ed up enough as it is, I guess ****ty threads littering the front page aren't that much of a big deal anymore.
Yeah pretty much. He's a no name nobody for lots of people, so everyone piles on.
07-23-2017 , 10:59 AM
RIP Chester.

Let's call it a wrap here.

      
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