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Originally Posted by MicroBob
I really disagree with this.
Actually, my hunch is that 20 years from now Radiohead will be looked at as NOT as spectacular as they are popularly viewed today. Kind of similar to what happened to R.E.M. I suppose (although I used to like R.E.M. and never liked Radiohead).
On another note: Does The Cure get consideration for best band of "our time?" As many asked, I'm not sure how far back "our time" goes but I feel like they should at least be close to making a list like that.
i was surprised when i went back and checked how many records REM sold vs. radiohead. i knew they were prolific but i forgot that their peak was so sustained and so high. their albums released from 87 to 94 went on to sell 15 million copies. i liked REM when i was a kid but never thought of them in that category of huge-selling bands. i think their legacy to this point has been hurt by the fact that their style of rock really lost out to other sub-genres both during and after their peak. they were a holdover from the 80's 'college rock' days that became a mainstream pop band.
in a way they were kind of opposite radiohead in career arc, who started out as a promising but not revolutionary alt-rock band when alt-rock was already popular (they were kicking around for a bit before this but didn't really get going in earnest until after "nevermind" dropped). they kind of came in at the crest of a wave and then transformed that success into being more experimental, and in many ways carried the torch through a transitional phase and a relatively dry era of rock. REM put in a lot of legwork for a genre that was largely unrecognized, really stopped evolving once they crossed over and remained much more stylistically consistent.
from a historical perspective i think REM are hurt by the fact that they had a distinctive and unique sound without being hugely innovative. they mostly played straight ahead rock infused with stipe's quirkiness. combine that with the fact that rock subsequently went in a much more aggro, grungy direction, and i think it shows why they have been largely forgotten. also i think these things move in cycles and in 5 or 10 years you may see a new wave of people show interest in them. a lot of trendy rock is still mining the 80's so i guess bands who peaked in the early 90's are probably due to get ripped off next.
floyd were huge in an era where rock was the biggest thing going. in that regard they're hard to compare with radiohead because even by the time OK computer came out, rap was starting to overtake rock and a lot of other fluffy boy bands etc were getting big. rock had a smaller market share. but i still think it's fair to say radiohead will never equal floyd's commercial success; i see them moving away from the album format and probably getting even less commercial. however in terms of the quality, longevity and critical acclaim of their music, and the role that they played in their respective eras, it's not a bad comparison. strictly in terms of commercial success i think you can compare them pretty readily with ozzy-era sabbath, who eventually went platinum in the US but didn't tear up the charts at the time. that's a band that was sort of a mid-tier draw from a strictly commercial perspective but still became regarded as a hugely influential group.
as far as the cure goes, they kinda fell off a cliff after "wish" in 1992 (and i think most people would agree that they peaked with disentegration in 89)... i look at them as basically an 80's band, and they were very good then, but there were several other very good bands in the 80's that probably overshadow them, and some that have had quite a bit more longevity. i do think they have been a big influence recently and i may be biased because i just don't enjoy their music that much, but i don't put them in that top tier of bands. even though they were short-lived i like the smiths a lot better for mopey euro-pop and i also take the pixies or the replacements ahead of them for 80's alt-pop type stuff, although i recognize that all three of those bands were much less successful. i also think of talking heads and the police as relative contemporaries who overshadow the cure (although that was more on the early side of their career).