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Old 07-17-2012, 03:00 AM   #76
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Re: Pursuit of women: Cultural obligation or actually enjoyable?

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Edit: And speaking of burden, it might also just be the inherent desire to have your young take of you when you get old. You may not be a burden now, but if you don't wind up being uber rich and have no family to take care of you when you get old, you will be draining more money out of the system than most homeless people do. Maybe people subconsciously think about these things. Married people are generally more stable, responsible, mature etc because they have more to lose and more responsibilities to take care of. People want other people that are those things even if they aren't themselves.
Wait, it's an inherent desire to be taken care of in old age by one's own offspring? I'd much rather give that job to professionals.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:06 AM   #77
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Actually, I agree with this. It's a part of why I advocate rejecting society as a whole.

One point on your response to nullspace:



This is a common fallacy. You see it all the time when somebody advocates voting in a large-scale election. You're not responsible for what other individuals do.

And that is assuming, of course, that "things falling apart" isn't the desired result. In a vacuum, I'd be happy if democracy were to fall apart because I view it as an irrational and dangerous system, but I won't get too political in OOT.
It's not really a fallacy because it is just used to further a point. If it was known I killed somebody with no consequences, and my neighbor decides to do the same thing afterwards, it's not my fault but there is some causation. Hypothetically if nobody judged him, then they wouldn't be judging anybody, and things change then.

Your viewpoints are a little too radical and sophomoric for me . I must be getting old cause I don't view society and democracy collapsing as a good thing anymore.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:07 AM   #78
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Re: Pursuit of women: Cultural obligation or actually enjoyable?

grunching but i suggest watching Punch Drunk Love

it's about a guy who has anxiety problems who discovers love

after watching the movie, read this:

http://sensesofcinema.com/2005/featu...s/pt_anderson/


i'm sorry you have such anxiety with regards to women. they are awesome and i love the dynamics we have with them. flirting with a girl is one of life's best pleasures.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:08 AM   #79
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Wait, it's an inherent desire to be taken care of in old age by one's own offspring? I'd much rather give that job to professionals.
Not literally of course. But I'd like for my kids to visit me every now and then and pay my bills if I'm broke as a joke. It's how I was raised anyway.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:57 AM   #80
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Re: Pursuit of women: Cultural obligation or actually enjoyable?

It's not about cultural obligation or enjoyment.

It's about evolution. Men are programmed to compete for women. Women are programmed to entice men into competing for their attention.

The society you live in is the evolution of that simple concept.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:04 AM   #81
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It's not about cultural obligation or enjoyment.

It's about evolution. Men are programmed to compete for women. Women are programmed to entice men into competing for their attention.

The society you live in is the evolution of that simple concept.
Opened thread on this response but you can more or less close it from here
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:10 AM   #82
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grunching but i suggest watching Punch Drunk Love

it's about a guy who has anxiety problems who discovers love

after watching the movie, read this:

http://sensesofcinema.com/2005/featu...s/pt_anderson/


i'm sorry you have such anxiety with regards to women. they are awesome and i love the dynamics we have with them. flirting with a girl is one of life's best pleasures.
Not sure how a 2,000 word movie review is supposed to help him, but whatever.

I agree with OP to a degree. There is pressure for men to engage in sexual exploits, to "score". The awesome thing about society is that you don't have to hang out with most of it. If you honestly don't enjoy talking to women in attempts that will lead to sex, then it seems like a waste of time for you. You should talk to girls because they seem smart, funny, or interesting. Care about your own goals, not what other people think.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:17 AM   #83
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Re: Pursuit of women: Cultural obligation or actually enjoyable?

I think the primary cause of male anxiety about women comes from feeling unable to compete. In the vast majority of cases.

If you have anxiety make yourself better. There is no reason for a girl to be attracted to you if you do not create one. Some people win the physical lottery, everyone else has to try. Unless you're rich, but that has its own drawbacks.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:22 AM   #84
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:30 PM   #85
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:37 PM   #86
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I have never once thought about society while having sex. I probably don't think at all, just watch them tittays bounce. Nothing is better at turning my brain into squish.

I also never felt some sort of pressure to score. I just went to girls and got two result: either I "fail" and go back to my friends and laugh about it or I get a new number and go back to your friends to laugh about it.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:53 PM   #87
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I do sometimes think I'd be a lot happier if I was asexual. The occasional pleasure of a successful encounter is outweighed by the mindf**k caused by females, as well as the sheer amount of time wasted trying to get some action.

Doug Stanhope sums it up well:

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I do sometimes think I'd be a lot happier if I was asexual. The occasional pleasure of a successful encounter is outweighed by the mindf**k caused by females, as well as the sheer amount of time wasted trying to get some action.

Doug Stanhope sums it up well:

I feel inclined to agree with you.

Perhaps Ron Burgundy is onto something.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:20 PM   #89
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Is the blood thing answered yet?

Oral on a girl having her period or did someone bite your penis?
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:27 PM   #90
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So OP claims that the pleasure to be gained from sex isn't worth the trouble, yet hasn't sexed a girl yet in his life?
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