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Owe a friend some money, is this payment justified? Owe a friend some money, is this payment justified?

01-15-2009 , 02:21 PM
Did you have prior plans to join this gym together?

Did you know about the referral system before you signed up?

If yes/yes you should have discussed this earlier. If no/no then STFU normal friend stuff. If yes/no then your friend should split the referral imo. If no/yes wtf weird.

Basically I think that if you planned on going to the gym and signing up together to work out together but your friend went at a more convenient time and signed up first that's fine. But if he got there and found out about the referral system, came home and said 'use me as your referrer tomorrow' then you should split the $150.

In no way should this pay off your entire $150 debt. If the roles were reversed and you signed up first would your friend say "HAI I GOT YOU A FREE MONTH NOW YOU OWE ME $300!!" and if he did would you think that was right? Your logic makes no sense.

Minimum you owe him is $75.

Last edited by JL514; 01-15-2009 at 02:31 PM.
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01-15-2009 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hitmenotone
Ok, I owe my friend $150 from a poker related debt.

We both recently signed up at the same gym, except he signed up about 2 days before me.

The gym has a referral system that pays one month of gym fees ($150) per person you refer.

My friend asked me to refer him and I did, therefore giving him a free month and saving him $150.

So, do I still owe him anything for the debt?
Yes, you still owe him.

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01-15-2009 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JL514

Basically I think that if you planned on going to the gym and signing up together to work out together but your friend went at a more convenient time and signed up first that's fine. But if he got there and found out about the referral system, came home and said 'use me as your referrer tomorrow' then you should split the $150.
This.
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01-15-2009 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hitmenotone
In my mind I am paying him $300 now instead of $150...
And your mind is wrong. How much is coming to him from your pocket? As of now: $0, after you pay him $150, then $150. The $150 from the gym is irrelevant. I think you could push for half of the referral, and but still should pay him $150 (total, so I suppose let him keep $75 and you give $75. Quit being a cheap ass while going to a gym that's $150/mo.
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01-15-2009 , 02:40 PM
you should have split the referral and you still owe him $150 (so you are only out $75). Obviously there's no need for all these transactions. Just let him keep the $150 (half of which was your share) and give him another $75 so now you've settled your debt.

I don't get the people saying you split and owe $75.
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01-15-2009 , 02:53 PM
hitmenotone -

Wow. You are such a scummy dirtball. Just wow.

If you give him a ride to the gym, are you going to charge him for gas?

Why the hell are you signing up for a pricey gym anyways before paying back your friend in the first place?
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01-15-2009 , 02:56 PM
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In my mind I am paying him $300 now instead of $150...
Your mind is ridiculous. At no point are you ever going to open your wallet and give him $300. You are not paying him $300. In fact, I think it's a pretty safe bet that at no point will you ever open your wallet and even give him the $150 that you owe him.
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01-15-2009 , 02:56 PM
What's the big deal? If he is indeed your friend, just ask him if he is willing to cut the debt down due to the referral fee. You would still owe him some money, but if he is reasonable he may give you a $50 cut off your debt.

It's sad you have to come to this forum before asking your friend. It's also sad that your friend didn't tell you he would get a referral fee before you signed up. Obv, he probably doesn't like you at all.
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01-15-2009 , 02:57 PM
For $150/month this gym better give massages w/happy endings after every workout.
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01-15-2009 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by miajag
For $150/month this gym better give massages w/happy endings after every workout.
one of my clients that is pretty much firing me, is a fancy health club that charges this much.

reason for not using me? they have an intern they are paying $10/hr to do my work, and dont' want to pay my higher fees. (they only had a few flyers a month, so i wasn't even billing them that much). the stuff the intern puts out looks like they were done for a ymca.

i still haven't spoken to their marketing head officially, but i want to tell them, it's cool, cause i only pay $29/month for a 24 hour fitness membership, so i totally understand.
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01-15-2009 , 03:27 PM
OP isn't scummy, he is just being cheap. If you were planning on joining the gym together you should have already agreed to flip for the referral bonus or chopped it. You owe him at least $75 and probably $150.
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01-15-2009 , 03:30 PM
If you owe your friend money and are spending lots of cash on extra things you don't need before paying your friend back, that's kind of scummy to me.
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01-15-2009 , 03:33 PM
Nope, this is scumtastic. The guy opened his wallet and gave you 150. You do the same. This isn't hard.

If he comes over to your house and uses your ketchup, are you going to take 3 cents off the tab because you saved him from having to buy his own factional ketchup bottle?

Cheapass scumtard.
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01-15-2009 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bostaevski
you should have split the referral and you still owe him $150 (so you are only out $75). Obviously there's no need for all these transactions. Just let him keep the $150 (half of which was your share) and give him another $75 so now you've settled your debt.

I don't get the people saying you split and owe $75.
When people say split the referral fee and owe $75, we are not suggesting OP physically gets the $75 from the referral fee, hands it back to his 'friend' and says 'okay my debt is now at $75'.

We are saying exactly what you are suggesting, but with less words and more common sense implied.
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01-15-2009 , 03:50 PM
wow how is there so much debate here. clearly op still owes his friend $150. that debt doesnt change the gym situation at all. however, if they planned to go together, and the friend just happened to go first, they should split the referral money. that's just variance, the two debts are unrelated in any way, but i wouldn't think twice about giving my friend half of the referral fee that he got me.
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01-15-2009 , 03:53 PM
Normally I would say that the friendly thing to do is to split the savings from the referral. But since you effectively joined the gym with your friend's money, I say he gets the whole thing and you still owe the full amount.
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01-15-2009 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nation
wow how is there so much debate here. clearly op still owes his friend $150. that debt doesnt change the gym situation at all. however, if they planned to go together, and the friend just happened to go first, they should split the referral money. that's just variance, the two debts are unrelated in any way, but i wouldn't think twice about giving my friend half of the referral fee that he got me.
yeah this 100%. also, i just realized that the membership/referral fee was no more than 50 dollars.
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01-15-2009 , 04:43 PM
Did he actually refer you to the gym or had you both talked about signing up at a gym and he just got there first? If you have both been searching for a gym so you could go together i'd say splitting the $150 would be fair.
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01-15-2009 , 04:53 PM
I can't stand cheap people. It makes me real mad when someone says something like, "Hey, when are you going to pay me that $100 you owe me?" or "Do you have that $50 you borrowed?" Man, quit being so cheap!
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01-15-2009 , 04:58 PM
lol

OP - if you didn't owe your friend $150, would you expect him to pay you $150 because you referred him?

If the answer is no, then yes, you still owe him $150.

If the answer is yes, you are a huge cheap douchebag. Don't pay your friend back so he has a good excuse to tell you to **** off.
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01-15-2009 , 05:27 PM
I already talked to my friend about it. We agreed that I would post on here to find out the resolution.

He thinks I'm a scumbag and has said that he will never bet with me again.

I have payed him every single time I have owed him money. I even payed him this time as my total debt was $250. I gave him $100 and told him about this conflict.

I am not a scumbag and I really think he is. I just asked him about splitting the referral and only owing $75 and he completely flips out. IMO, this is uncalled for as he doesn't even give thought to chopping the referral and believes it is all his since he signed up first. What a bastard.

I may not pay him anything because of this and we may no longer be friends. He said I'm cut off, lol.
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01-15-2009 , 05:29 PM
i'd be embarrassed to ask this
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01-15-2009 , 05:32 PM
yeah dont pay the money you owe him since hes not your friend anymore.
Youre not a scumbad and a thief indeed.
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01-15-2009 , 05:33 PM
there should not be any instance where the OP owes more or less than $75.

Anyone suggesting still 150 is nuts.
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01-15-2009 , 05:38 PM
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I may not pay him anything because of this and we may no longer be friends. He said I'm cut off, lol.
you are more of a douche here

he could have been a bit unnecessary with the extent to which he flipped out, but taking a loan and trying to pay it back with friendly gestures you should be doing anyway is very cheap.
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