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07-05-2010, 02:14 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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Originally Posted by nuisance
My point is the music has evolved and if you are only looking at the god fathers of extreme metal you are missing out.
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What exactly classifies as extreme metal? Is Gojira extreme metal?
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07-05-2010, 03:47 PM
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#48
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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Originally Posted by SixT4
What exactly classifies as extreme metal? Is Gojira extreme metal?
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I guess Gojira is without any doubt extreme metal, and they would be one of the best examples of "MODERN extreme metal".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_metal
Here's one band from Estonia, sounding somewhat similar to Gojira (and Meshuggah), modern, massive apocalyptic death metal: http://www.myspace.com/horricane
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07-05-2010, 04:01 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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This is most likely the NYHC band Candiria. Unless they influenced other bands to fuse Jazz in with Metal also. But this is the only band I could think of that does this.
Candiria - Pull
The only problem is that in the 00's they sold out big time plus the don't play th Jazz Sections when they play live. You should check out there **** from the 90's.
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I wouldn't go that far. Sold out is too harsh of a statement.
I joined them in '04 and played with them till they stopped touring. We played a few songs from the glory days, but since John also left, his replacement wasn't good enough to play the better songs. We did play Pull, Temple Of Sickness, and Faction though. I tried to teach the guy 300% Density, Mathematics and Constant Velocity, but he couldn't do it.
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07-05-2010, 04:04 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
I take it back, that Meshuggah song is ****ing awesome.
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07-05-2010, 04:23 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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Originally Posted by Spiff
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i still havent heard much of blackjazz, i'm not really into metal these days and they are moving futher away from the music i'm interested in.
But kingdom of kitsch and grindstone are awesome, definately one of the most interesting modern bands around. Insane rhythms and incredible production
glad to see them mentioned here.
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07-05-2010, 04:55 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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I think his point was that this music seems almost scientifically designed to be repulsive as possible to almost all females.
Not trolling here, but I've listened to a few of the links and can someone explain to me what's to like about extreme metal, b/c I truly don't get it. I mean, besides the level of musicianship, which is obvious.
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There are good metal bands and bad metal bands just as there are in any other genre of music and the good metal bands have just as good of an understanding of music theory as other good composers - however it manifests itself differently and you have to learn what sort of things to listen for. Most people aren't used to listening to music that uses a pentatonic scale or is full of blast beats so it's easy to get overwhelmed until you get used to it. With metal, especially death metal, a lot of the interesting stuff is found in the rhythms rather than the melody - although with that said, the bands I enjoy the most are the ones that figure out how to incorporate real melody in there as well without sacrificing the intensity. An example. Personally though I've just always been drawn to music that's dark, intense, and beautiful. And there is a lot of metal that I would consider beautiful. From one of my favorite albums.
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07-05-2010, 06:01 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
these are the only videos i've found on youtube where the vuvuzela button is an improvement
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07-05-2010, 06:03 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
k but for serious, i consider myself pretty open minded wrt music but this just sounds like awful noise to me. i don't want to troll here, i'm just curious what i should be looking for in these songs? is the strength of the musicianship in the drummer? a lot of the songs sound super similar to me yet you guys are seemingly able to classify the bands into different subgroups, what are the differences?
(these are serious questions, i'm not trying to troll. i've seriously never met anyone who liked this music and know nothing about it)
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07-05-2010, 06:05 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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Originally Posted by soah
There are good metal bands and bad metal bands just as there are in any other genre of music and the good metal bands have just as good of an understanding of music theory as other good composers - however it manifests itself differently and you have to learn what sort of things to listen for. Most people aren't used to listening to music that uses a pentatonic scale or is full of blast beats so it's easy to get overwhelmed until you get used to it. With metal, especially death metal, a lot of the interesting stuff is found in the rhythms rather than the melody - although with that said, the bands I enjoy the most are the ones that figure out how to incorporate real melody in there as well without sacrificing the intensity. An example. Personally though I've just always been drawn to music that's dark, intense, and beautiful. And there is a lot of metal that I would consider beautiful. From one of my favorite albums.
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Soah, that's cool. I'm actually enjoying this thread. Most of this stuff is so far from my taste, but it's rhythmically really interesting, and it's interesting to see music being pushed so far in one direction.
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07-05-2010, 06:08 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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Originally Posted by bware
k but for serious, i consider myself pretty open minded wrt music but this just sounds like awful noise to me. i don't want to troll here, i'm just curious what i should be looking for in these songs? is the strength of the musicianship in the drummer? a lot of the songs sound super similar to me yet you guys are seemingly able to classify the bands into different subgroups, what are the differences?
(these are serious questions, i'm not trying to troll. i've seriously never met anyone who liked this music and know nothing about it)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subgenres
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07-05-2010, 06:11 PM
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Unexpected
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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Originally Posted by bware
k but for serious, i consider myself pretty open minded wrt music but this just sounds like awful noise to me. i don't want to troll here, i'm just curious what i should be looking for in these songs? is the strength of the musicianship in the drummer? a lot of the songs sound super similar to me yet you guys are seemingly able to classify the bands into different subgroups, what are the differences?
(these are serious questions, i'm not trying to troll. i've seriously never met anyone who liked this music and know nothing about it)
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Which songs?
Again, any genre has good and bad bands and there are some metal songs that are simple and suck, some are simple but still fun, and others are really interesting.
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07-05-2010, 06:25 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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Originally Posted by bware
these are the only videos i've found on youtube where the vuvuzela button is an improvement
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post your 5 favorite bands/musical acts so i can laugh at you.
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07-05-2010, 06:34 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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Originally Posted by ATAT
I take it back, that Meshuggah song is ****ing awesome.
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Yeah, Meshuggah is just an unbelievable band. I have a lot of MetalHead musician friends that can play the crap out of just about all of the brutal and extreme metal music out there. Most of them can barely follow, let alone play, certain Meshuggah songs.
Playing fast is easy, but their patterns and syncopations are insane. Their song "I" is straight psychotic. Just when you think you figured out the pattern, they flip it on you.
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07-05-2010, 06:36 PM
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Re: OOT modern extreme metal thread
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Originally Posted by bware
k but for serious, i consider myself pretty open minded wrt music but this just sounds like awful noise to me. i don't want to troll here, i'm just curious what i should be looking for in these songs? is the strength of the musicianship in the drummer? a lot of the songs sound super similar to me yet you guys are seemingly able to classify the bands into different subgroups, what are the differences?
(these are serious questions, i'm not trying to troll. i've seriously never met anyone who liked this music and know nothing about it)
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If you're just looking for proof of the level of musicianship, then you're best off listening to the more current bands. The production in some of those older records is awful. There are so many more tricks now that even bad players can sound slick and polished.
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