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07-02-2016 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
I will eventually post something like MLY did in her fitness thread, probably this weekend.

Info was originally posted in LC thread.

Lol Rapini, so obtuse thinking his rep doesn't follow him around these forums like a dead fish necklace.

No one wants to play with you Big Rapi, can't have it both ways BRAH.
I didn't say anything about my reputation. I simply pointed out that your response was both incorrect and unhelpful.
07-02-2016 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bombonca
don't bother running or muscle training, it won't help you lose much weight at this stage because you are not fit enough to endure,.
This is incorrect.
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Originally Posted by bombonca
and no food after 7pm.
I won't say this is outright wrong yet, but what is your reasoning behind this statement?
07-02-2016 , 12:09 PM
I posted the following over a year ago:

"Fair enough, I'll drop it, but he can't expect to come in here and think he can leave all his bull**** baggage behind.

Rapini, if you really want to be some kind of light-hearted OOT poster, I suggest you do so under a different screen name."

I really can't imagine why he's clinging to that horribly tarnished name. I know I'm not the only one who will never forgive him for single-handedly destroying B&M.
07-02-2016 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
This is incorrect.

MLYLT is not in enough of a shape to do a weight loss training that will have effect on her weight as much as power walking at this time will. Same goes for running. There is no point in running for 10 minutes and collapsing, the effect on her weight loss is minimal, what she needs right now is long power walks that will make her fundamentally stronger and in time prepared to start running and doing a proper weight burnout workouts. Do you think that a 30 minute (optimistic) fat burning workout will have more effect on her weight loss then 2 hours of walking?

[QUOTE=I won't say this is outright wrong yet, but what is your reasoning behind this statement?[/QUOTE]

Because the food you eat at evening/night is stored in your body and not metabolized. Hope this helps.
07-02-2016 , 12:58 PM
Breakfast/Lunch:




This was not a purchase for this battle. Been my go-to oatmeal for years. That should concern MLY.
07-02-2016 , 01:08 PM
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Because the food you eat at evening/night is stored in your body and not metabolized. Hope this helps.
This is incorrect. It's all about calories in vs. calories out. It does have an effect because you remove 1 or 2 meals from your daily consumption.
07-02-2016 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by owster
This is incorrect. It's all about calories in vs. calories out. It does have an effect because you remove 1 or 2 meals from your daily consumption.
Sure, but you lose most of your calories during the day and calories that you intake at night are less metabolized and more stored. And obviously it has effect because you remove meals but its also about where the calories go.
07-02-2016 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Breakfast/Lunch:




This was not a purchase for this battle. Been my go-to oatmeal for years. That should concern MLY.


I'm already on the oatmeal for breakfast plan....almost. And I just walked 10mins in this Texas heat.
07-02-2016 , 01:19 PM
Hear that guys? She's already on the oatmeal for breakfast plan.


Almost...


07-02-2016 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bombonca
Sure, but you lose most of your calories during the day and calories that you intake at night are less metabolized and more stored. And obviously it has effect because you remove meals but its also about where the calories go.
Yeah, you use more calories during the day, but the calories consumed in the evening will be stored as glycogen, not fat, for the body to use later on, exactly like food you eat during the day. It's not like food you eat during the day gets processed (much) quicker and used right away, it still has to be broken down and then used by the body.

The body will start storing excessive calories as fat only after a "long" time of over-consuming. At first it will try to get rid of the abundance by raising the body temperature and giving you more energy to do **** and make use of the calories among other things.
07-02-2016 , 01:24 PM
Mlylt,

Others will say bomb is very wrong about his reasoning, and they're right, but his advice to do some walking, not eat at night, cut out bread, and eat lots of chicken and vegetables are all good ideas for you.

Other good ideas:

Track all food in MFP - if one of you does this and the other doesn't, the tracker will probably win

No liquid calories - you've already cut soda, but also juice, milk, beer, etc

Cook batches of food in advance - the more good, filling stuff you have ready to go, the less likely you'll make an exception because you're feeling tired/lazy/etc.
07-02-2016 , 01:25 PM
Quarter cup of McCann's steelcut with a little bit of dried fruit, coffee with low fat milk comes in under 400 for breakfast and virtually guarantees a good poop later...win-win!
07-02-2016 , 01:26 PM
MLYLT, i would suggest having dinner around 7 and then going for a walk after 9 pm. 10 minute walk in the heat will not produce much result, it is about long walks, you will start burning a lot more fat after 30 minutes , and even more after 1 hour. Its about reaching that far and then pushing yourself some more for maximum fat burn.
07-02-2016 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Mlylt,

Others will say bomb is very wrong about his reasoning, and they're right, but his advice to do some walking, not eat at night, cut out bread, and eat lots of chicken and vegetables are all good ideas for you.

Other good ideas:

Track all food in MFP - if one of you does this and the other doesn't, the tracker will probably win

No liquid calories - you've already cut soda, but also juice, milk, beer, etc

Cook batches of food in advance - the more good, filling stuff you have ready to go, the less likely you'll make an exception because you're feeling tired/lazy/etc.
07-02-2016 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DrawNone
ya I just go for it and miss more often that not

join this thread BigHurt. consider this a formal challenge to fat-off. I'm 240ish, 6'ish, and preemptively agree to any of your non-monetary conditions.
Reading this as I eat a mini skillet bowl, suasge Flatbread quesafilla, and grilled sausage burrito. I'm not ready to win any kind of fat off yet.
07-02-2016 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Mlylt,

Others will say bomb is very wrong about his reasoning, and they're right, but his advice to do some walking, not eat at night, cut out bread, and eat lots of chicken and vegetables are all good ideas for you.

Other good ideas:

Track all food in MFP - if one of you does this and the other doesn't, the tracker will probably win

No liquid calories - you've already cut soda, but also juice, milk, beer, etc

Cook batches of food in advance - the more good, filling stuff you have ready to go, the less likely you'll make an exception because you're feeling tired/lazy/etc.
Your're absolutely right, this is not the time or place to get into that. Bobomcas' advice will definitely have a very positive effect on weight loss. Sry for derail.
07-02-2016 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Mlylt,

Others will say bomb is very wrong about his reasoning, and they're right, but his advice to do some walking, not eat at night, cut out bread, and eat lots of chicken and vegetables are all good ideas for you.

Other good ideas:

Track all food in MFP - if one of you does this and the other doesn't, the tracker will probably win

No liquid calories - you've already cut soda, but also juice, milk, beer, etc

Cook batches of food in advance - the more good, filling stuff you have ready to go, the less likely you'll make an exception because you're feeling tired/lazy/etc.
I am not expert at all but i think my reasoning is not far off, would be good to hear what a real professional/expert would say, i don't know if you qualify
07-02-2016 , 01:39 PM
According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s*Weight Control*Information Network web site, “it does not matter what time of day you eat. It is what and how much you eat and how much physical activity you do during the whole day that determines whether you gain, lose, or maintain your weight.”
07-02-2016 , 01:39 PM
Didn't mean to derail but if i am to bet on MLYLT, i want her to at least have an idea how to do it, if she follows through or not is a different subject tho...
07-02-2016 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Some background on me:

I'm 31, 5'7" and now about 28bs.
I was 145lbs until I was 22. I gained 100lbs that year from being depressed after getting married. I started to loose weight when I was 26, but then go pregnant and went back up to 250. I slowly got up to 290, and when I was 28-29 tried to loose weight and got down to 240; I met code 3 about this time. I've crept back up to the 280s since then.

I want to lose weight because I'm sick of being a fat ass. I want to feel good about myself, I want to wear a bikini, I want to have the energy to go on trips and go rock climbing and kayaking etc.
I really want to change my life and my lifestyle. I want to be happy again.
Rock climbing is the nuts. I've gotten hooked on bouldering. I train 3-4x a week 2hrs a day. And I have to watch what I eat, in the sense that I'm getting enough calories. Prob dropped from 15% bf to like 7-8% in the past 6mo since I started not particularly trying.

But what you want to do is find something you enjoy exercise wise. That way it's sustainable long term. Tried going to the gym and bro'ing it out on at least 3 diff occasions in my life and always just quit after 3mo because I hated it.

Also if you like it would recommend not cutting out diet soda. Having something low/0 calories other than lolwater to go to is good.

About 2 years ago I started intermittent fasting, well, just eating lunch and dinner and having them be bigger meals. Not because of some health thing but because of my grind schedule. My body has gotten used to it and that seems to be fine for me (though I'm hungrier more often when I'm exercising hard). So figure out what works best for you and what's sustainable long term. If I only have 2 meals a day I can eat plenty of "crap" and not get fat!

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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
i think exercise is more important than what you eat imo

pretty much eat terribly and i never get above 180 but i do a lot of cardio
Meh, depends, but I'd mostly disagree. Appetite is def going up with more exercise!

Last edited by TooCuriousso1; 07-02-2016 at 02:04 PM.
07-02-2016 , 02:01 PM
She simply needs to burn more calories than she consumes, but since, even if she tracks everything, she will likely overestimate how many calories she's burning and underestimate how many she's consuming, she should take this into consideration when doing her calculations.

In the end, a calorie is a calorie, but calories from some certain foods are more filling than others: the more a food makes you feel full, the less hungry you feel on a calorie deficit, and the easier it is to maintain that deficit.
07-02-2016 , 02:05 PM
Bomb,

I'm pretty expert on this topic, and there's tons of professional research to support my opinions here.

Happy to discuss further, but I won't reply to you on this topic more here. If you want to discuss further, feel free to post any thoughts/questions in MLYLT's h&f thread and I'll be happy to continue the discussion there.
07-02-2016 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
If you want to discuss further, feel free to post any thoughts/questions in MLYLT's h&f thread and I'll be happy to continue the discussion there.
07-02-2016 , 05:25 PM
looking to wager up to 0.00475 bitcoin on MeLoveYouLongTime
07-02-2016 , 06:54 PM
I checked out MLYLT's H&F pics. She should spend more time playing live bec, by poker room standards, she's ok.

      
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