It's probably not that uncommon of an attitude, but this post is just really sad to me.

This pretty much sums it up best, imo.

There was a 2+2er a while back who wrote a fun book about this; his wife had the travel bug, and he was somewhat less inclined. Link: https://www.amazon.com/Reluctant-Tra.../dp/1451516266

Hey tinder vets do hookers look for business on tinder ? My first swipe back in Las Vegas is a scantily clad lady who exchanged pleasantries before giving me her # to text if I wanted to "get together". Now I'm not a rube I just want to know what I'm getting myself into if I'm paying I'll be more choosy but this would be some fine free strange for an ugly like myself. Thanks in advance

Edit: I just looked at some of her pics, gotta be hooker or scam. Will leave original comment for posterity/poking fun at

I've seen hookers on POF and Tinder in Vegas for sure.

Oof, spending the weekend in Dallas and much more potential.
At least I'm getting trolled by better fakes.

Almost got in a fight cause drunk MILFs at a concert can't resist the eey.

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Even better,got hit on by married women at closing time.Woot woot.

(Of course I'm not going to do anything about it)

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I went 0/3 on first dates last week(one from OKC, one Tinder, one Bumble) I did get to second base at the club last night. Couldn't convince her to come home with me and was too drunk/lazy/uninterested to circle back and get a number.

I'm finding out I'm popular with the black chicks on tinder.

They down with the brown in Texas.

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Lol eey on fire and continually wrecked itt

Oh it's something right now,I'll write up something when I get home

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I'm torn between eey is a troll or a throwback.

Hahahaha


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Joined OKC yesterday. Seems like just too much and not simplistic enough imo. Maybe just overwhelmed cause not used to it yet.

Is the play to like every girl and wait for a match before messaging them? Or go ahead with messages before even getting a match?

I've used both strategies successfully. Once you figure it out you'll fly through things. I think across dating apps OKC consistently has the best selection. Of course that could vary by location.

If you're really interested in them then just message without waiting. Some use OKC without doing the match thing at all, just treating it like an old-school dating site, so you have to message in those cases.

World of difference in location I guess,went from Oklahoma City to Dallas over the weekend.
Used the bumble app,had a couple of hits,but nothing materialized ,they were more looking for a LTR.

Used the tinder app and talked to several girls,but really didn't mesh,so I didn't pursue a meet and greet.

Did find a couple of wives with a hall pass for their girls weekend away from their husbands at my hotel.

At least that's what they claimed.

Nice enough women,one was definitely better looking than the other,I should have pressed harder at closing the deal with one of them,but I'm so out of practice I missed a couple opportunities I think.

But it felt good to at least be in the game.




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An OKC sloot that opened on me back in April and who I dropped the conversation with because I was busy reopened again last week. We transitioned to text messaging and agreed to meet-up the next day (Thursday) for drinks. She drives to me and we meet at a bar / restaurant. She's hot, 8+, tight body, great face, etc. The conversation is okay-to-good but there's just something off about our chemistry. Anyways, I decide that I'm going to try to first-date-**** her and suggest we walk down to the beach to catch the sunset. She agrees and we hang out there where we make out and she let's me play with her tits and grind on her a bit. Still, she's sort of distant and not really in the moment (which she earlier, along with calling herself a narcissist, admitted is a problem for her). I get bored and start wrapping it up. I take her to her car, kiss goodbye and as I walk away she says that next time we should hangout by her. Yeah, okay. As I drive away I get a text saying "you could have kissed me more but you chickened out!" to which I respond "chickened out?! I was being respectful and not too pushy." We continue periodic texting through the evening until I fall asleep. I wake up and see that her last three messages were "send me a pic a real one," "you sleeping?," and "can I ask a question?"

I send her a pic, explain that I fell asleep and say she can ask whatever she wants. She responds 8 hours later with "its a mean one" and I say "go for it" and that's the end of our convo although she hit my OKC profile Saturday night.

While I'd like to **** her brains out, her personality was kinda meh and she clearly has some trauma in her life (we talked about it- last relationship was 4 years, got engaged, moved in together, never kissed during sex, guy made her put a towel down every time they banged, was an alcoholic who cheated on her) that she's avoiding, making her sort of an emotional shell, almost robotic-like, that's difficult to read. Maybe I'll fire off something today to see where I'm at, if anywhere with her.

Saturday night I basically destroyed the internal organs of a woman (she liked it) through a solid 5 hours of ****ing. Sunday morning I went to brunch with another woman, then back to her place and had her suck off the remnants of the earlier girl. So hot.

With regard to being "rapey," I don't know about your experiences but I find that most women feel insulted if I don't make a move on them. I'll use that to my advantage of course - holding off on physical escalation but massive flirting to make them super horny - but I don't think any woman I've ever been with felt physically threatened or in a rapey situation ever.

With that said, in my experience many women have rape fantasies (they like to talk about them too) and when comfortable with a man are eager to act on said fantasy. As such I'll weave in tit/ass slapping, hair pulling, deep throat gagging, and benign choking. All consensual of course. Women want to feel sexy and like sexual beings and getting absolutely destroyed in the bedroom (by the right guy, done the right way) is one way they act on these feelings.

Just like we may feel good after ****ing the **** out of a woman, woman also feel great after getting their brains ****ed out. And being "taken" and "used" for sex, I've found, often makes them feel super sexy / sexual.

Note to rapists: these are consensual encounters. It is not okay to force or coerce a woman into a sexual situation.

"Many women"? really??

I've never been with a woman who even hinted at "rape fantasies".

You're not doing it right.


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I agree with a lot of this. I've had many women tell me they like being taken. They enjoy being submissive and getting dominated. They have to trust the guy because they want to feel safe but it makes them feel desired. I'm not sure if I'm being told the truth but the last 3 women ive banged on a regular basis acted surprised at first by my aggressiveness in the bedroom. They either said they have never had a guy **** them like that or they had to ask the guy to act like that and it's not the same as having a guy, who knows how to do it, just do it.

Now if I could just not catch feelings for girls I'd be in a very similar situation to ATF. Sucks because I love destroying girls that beg for it.

My 25 yo male friend who's 6'3" and better looking is on Tinder/Bumble. He is pretty conservative/private about his swiping/dating so I don't know exactly how much better life is. He showed me a opener from a pretty hot girl "You look like someone I want to hate ****."

I talked him into making a Tinder group so I can pick off some of the leftovers. Anyone have experience with this? I'm thinking usual small talk chat would be a mess with 4+ people so just hit em up a few hours before we go out and invite them to meet up with us . Or possibly the night before.

From my experience (I'm in one of 4 males) tinder groups lead nowhere and the group of girls are just doing it for the giggles

Rape fantasies are fairly common but you have to talk out anything you might want to do in advance. For some people it's literally just fantasy and they don't really want to try it. Some think they might enjoy some consensual force, but in the moment it either turns them off or scares them. Add in the fact that there's some overlap with actual assault victims and I would never advise just going for it without a discussion first.

Oh cool she said she has rape fantasies I'll just throw her around a little...wait, why the **** is she crying? Women be cray, yo.

Im not comfortable saying rape fantasies are common, maybe just more known,or all dominant fantasy is put in this category?

I mean,if you want someone else to take charge and control you ,doesn't necessarily make it rapey.





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