Nah that's not what I meant by the George Clooney line. I might simply be showing my age to anyone who knows what that means.

Sorry to be cryptic - but, IIRC, the "George Clooney line" is what you use when a girl hasn't responded to you in a while. Something like "Either you're on George Clooney's yacht...blah blah let's get drinks" - basically, flatter her, playfully acknowledge that she didn't respond, but get her to meet up quickly.

So the "reverse" is that instead of her having not responded, it's me who hasn't responded.

Also - sorry to triple post - but I've been "dating older" for the past few months (not necc by deliberate intention; it's just kinda happened) - at what age is it ok and/or expected to put "never married" and/or "I have no kids". 35? 40?

Speaking specifically about the profile text on Tinder and/or Bumble.

I see hot 31-year olds put that and think "well no ****, I don't blame you for holding out for a 10/10"...but age 31 strikes me as way to young to put that in your profile.

31 is running out of time to find a mate if they're looking to breed.

Clooney line:

Well, I have to assume one of two things happened. Either you're on George Clooney's yacht somewhere or I got buried beneath a pile of dudes doing the duckface in the mirror. One of those things I can do something about... the other, well... I don't blame you. ​

So I guess the opposite is to tell her you got buried beneath a pile of girls doing duckface selfies!

I am 6'2 not 5'10

Yep. In fact, I once read a girl's blog where she lied about not having a PhD (i.e. she had one) because she felt guys were intimidated by it, which while it might not be true for all guys, I'm sure it's true for many.

So yes, if a girl has either high school education or a PhD, it won't make much difference to her ability to attract better men. Flip that around though and it makes a huge difference.

Lol, why would you want to date the kind of weak moron who would be intimidated by having a PhD? Lol women.

I think there is a huge disjunction between what guys think they want and what they actually want.

You have that backwards,women say they want the nice guy yet go for the bad boy and then wonder why it goes wrong.
Men go for the good looking girl ignoring all the red flags cause she's hot.



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I don't have it backwards at all. Women of course suffer from a similar disjunction.

HT,

(insert sarcastic tone here)

As we've clearly seen dissected and proven by example in this thread, womenfolk are irrational, easily manipulated (frequently because they are attempting to manipulate others), and incapable of being self critical or being trusted to state or know their own preferences.

Men, being the alphas of the species, are of course the opposite. They are coldly logical, see through all the games, ruthlessly analyze their own actions and thoughts, and are by nature very forthright with their relationship counterparts.

The only reason men ever stray from their ubermench status quo is in a game theoretic response to the irrational actions of women, because they know better than the women what the women actually want and need.

So, I never heard back from the county fair chick after texting her the next day, which is massively disappointing - not because I liked her that much (she was just kind of okay) but more because she seemed to be the nut woman to be accepting of my current living situation given her background. The fact that she ultimately wasn't makes me feel like if it's not cool with her, it's not gonna be cool with any woman.

Unless the issue is something else, but the actual date went well so don't know what else it could be.

I suppose I should not bother with online dating until I get my kid's mother out of this house? I know that seems stupidly obvious but the desire to try anyway is overwhelming. Especially when I have to see her with a boyfriend. Jesus, my life is ****ed.

Most people don't like it when others drop all their baggage especially on a first date. You can't be overly focused on 1 random online date; when you're ready, you need do diversify and date a bunch and if you put in your time, etc. you'll likely find your match.

You're ****ed

Cit,

My observations are abstract only, seeing as I've been out of the dating game for twenty years or so. And they are anecdotal to boot.

I'll go back to lurking this thread now.

HT,

Same here. I think you might have missed my sarcasm warning. I think you'd probably be a very strong poster in the thread if you wanted.

Well, it's kind of a catch-22 then, huh? The conventional wisdom says you should be honest and upfront about these kind of things and pretty much everyone itt said that I should address this as soon as possible with her.

I did see that, and I appreciate that our views are likely the same. I'm not at all sure I'd be a strong poster here, though. My game, such as it was, worked extraordinarily well but only with a very small percentage of women.

Well, you quickly figured out she didn't think you were good enough to overcome your current baggage. You likely saved yourself a lot of time; with that being said, if the girl you're going after has a ton of options near where she perceives your level, she is likely going to go with the option that has less baggage. I agree it's a catch-22; maybe the way you framed it turned her off or maybe it was something else. Don't overanalyze your first dates; you'll be wasting a lot of time doing that.

CK, I think you're right. You're screwed by the ex living in the house. Most women will assume residual feelings/sex, and those who don't will have other issues.

Attempts at explaining why she is there will make you come off as ex-bashing or a pushover.

Neither are appealing.
Sry.

Because separating out guys to who aren't intimidated by PhD reduces the dating pool almost to zero. I mean..... I don't have my education on my online dating page. And if I meet people in a club, I lie pretty often about what I am doing for a living. I mean in a club I want to dance and not be smart.

Clearly long term it just doesn't work to pretend to be dumb.

It is difficult.......

And yet if the situation is the opposite,men are supposed to be understanding,because it's harder for a woman to raise kids on her own with only one income.



CK,that is a good thing she bailed on you because you're honest on a first date.
Do you think holding back a few dates would make a difference?

No.If she judges you badly for this ,yet has had similar experiences,she's an *******.

But honestly,I imagine it came down to she had a better option and has moved on.

Don't get down on yourself,just work on getting the living situation to the optimal arrangements.

Always be honest,lying or withholding the truth could be the difference of someone accepting your arrangement.

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This is insulting to men.

You're basically saying we don't want or like smart women.

Or we have to be tricked into accepting them.

I wonder what dating pool you are in if the intelligence of attaining a PHD turns the chance of meeting eligible men to zero.

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Oh hai der Kristy

Seeing you post here reminded me of when I used to frequent BBV4L and the fact that I actually had a thread about her back in the day (the ex obv, not the girl I took to the fair)

Yep, it's the same one. Yep, I'm a pushover... But I do it for the kid. I legit love this kid more than anything in the world.