I don't know who Santorum is.

I am basically a caveman, yes. I believe in 1930's gender roles*, yes. Most of the sex I have is interracial. It's easily my favorite kind of sex.

I don't see any climate in which I and Chip would get along.

The gender roles were fine. Women being beaten and having minimal human rights, not cool. Like most government programs, the women's rights movement has outlived it's usefulness and become a monster. Take off the blinders brother.

Amazin,

Are you actually a vegan?

Yes

This is actually a decent response and we'll just agree to disagree on the women's rights movement.

Also, Custer I agree that wanting a certain attraction level is more than okay but I don't think that's what LT was referencing.

Not all of us live in the middle of the USA. I walk Redondo Beach every day and see plenty of 30+ women who bring it with force. Workout daily, eat right etc..It's pretty hot when an older woman keeps it together.

Plus lots of Asians 30+. They age really well.

But I'm with you. Young women just shine. I find them to be full of life as well and more willing to think outside the box a little.

It's gotta suck to be an old broad. No wonder drugs sell so well.

I'm not sure what you're disagreeing about. The women's right movement worked. Women seem to be treated really well in society these days. What purpose does the movement serve now? I'm not baiting you here.

What tragedy in your life has occurred to make this the case?

Do you eat soy?

Damn wish 2p2 had some sort of feature that allowed the person to link to the post they are responding too. Would be nifty.

Becoming a vegan is one of the best decisions I've made in my life.

Yes, but not a lot

Among other things, the movement today focuses on traditional issues like busting the glass ceiling. But, compared to the past, it seems to focus more on violence against women and the practice of judging a woman largely or solely on her looks even outside of sexual/romantic situations.

I was referring to the two posts immediately before mine.

One post said don't date 36 year old women unless trying to use them for sex.

The next said 30 is pushing it.

About as shallow as it gets IMO. There's a difference between wanting to date attractive women and throwing aside all 30+ year old women like dish rags. Essentially it's okay for women to date up and men date down, but the opposite is unacceptable b/c older women are garbage.

Is the glass ceiling the pay gap debate? If so I think it's fairly obvious why men make more money than women.

Women should be judged for their looks. Are men not judged via their ability to provide and protect? I judge men by their looks as well.

Fat slobs deserve no sympathy. In a more traditional society they would be dead already.

The above issues are all nonsensical. Again, the "women's movement" has far outlived it's usefulness. It's now a hindrance to society.

So men should override their genetic pre dispostion to seek fertile mates just to be nice guys?

Just making sure that's your argument.

Alphas ITT.

Lol you are a clown. Might as well seek out girls after puberty b/c they have a large quantity of viable eggs.

The grass is always greener, especially in online dating. The misogynistic type is never going to be able to have a long-term, committed relationship. What happens in a few years when their current girl starts aging?

I'm not suggesting people be nice to older women. I'm suggesting they might want to open their mind a little bit in search of a compatible companion. I always forget that 99% of this thread is not looking for LTR.

I'm not a clown. I just think differently than you do. I presume you lump me in with actual women haters. I love women. I just think the concept of us being "equal" is ridiculous. We are different beings and provide different purposes in the life cycle/tribal setting. Trying to be one leads to pain. We are creating a society of softened men and hardened women. All in the quest to make everything fair. It's ******ed.

What does the term misogynist mean to you? I guess I am one in your book so I can just give you my life plans:

Stay in USA for the next 5 years or so and have fun with mid 20's women. Eventually I want to move to another country when I decide to have a child. Costa Rica seems like a good option. They are a more patriarchal society and older men are looked as catches. I'll have some more fun down there until I hit 45 or so and then I'll marry a local (18+) who comes from a good family and start a family of my own.

That's the plan but who knows maybe I get hit by a bus tomorrow. One thing I don't see happening is getting married in the USA.

Lol.

I only went 'alpha' per se because I lived through most of the **** a Beta eats daily.

I looked down the rest of my life in my marriage to a Princess Shrew, and prayed for an early death.

Now that my stbx can't withhold sex any longer, she is trying to keep my children from me instead. Four months ago I was her husband and provider. Now I'm such a ****ing monster, it's unsafe for me to be around my own kids - really?

I don't look at leaving my wife as a selfish act, though ultimately I guess it was. I decided divorce was a step up from the home life my kids were experiencing. We were verbally knife fighting to kill in front of them at the last.

It's sad to see what you guys are headed for, because of your own blindness to the feminine agenda. There wasn't anyone to warn us 30 years ago like there is now.

I'm not sure how sublime can keep one toe unplugged from the matrix and still bleat about 'quality women'.

He'll come home early one day, and find his quality wife ****ing the pool guy. And just as well, because she'll be doing it whether he finds out or not.

Chip,

You would do more to help the men's movement if you just stopped talking about it. You're too hysterical right now. I'm sorry you got screwed by a woman but you need to step away from the keyboard.

keep wishing for that quality bro.

won't deny hysterical. but there is nothing uncommon about my story.

Chip,

I understand the concept of hypergamy. I would never trust a woman in the presence of a true alpha. My "woman" would never be in the continued presence of a true alpha. Well other than me. If you're not alpha in your relationship and you're a man you should kill yourself.

This doesn't mean the concept of "quality" doesn't have merit. A 22yo woman who has had one sexual partner and comes from a loving family has more quality than an ex porn star. This isn't rocket science bro. If you can't dig this then I'm gonna have to ignore you man. This is a litmus test of sorts.

ignore away because you are kidding yourself

Chip,

If what you're describing in your posts is really what's going on then I think you should stop spending so much time on here.

She's gone and the world is a cruel place. You will be stronger because of this. Now go shove it in her dirty whore face by becoming a better man.

You can't hate women like you do right now. It will kill you. They are beautiful creatures. Society lied to them. And you. But you're still alive. Now crush!

Also did you're wife cheat on you? Full disclaimer I just want to hear the sick deets.

Dude if you look back at my recent posts you'll see phrases like 'nothing but respect for these women' and I mean it.

They play their games, we play ours.

Which is as it should be.

It's when poor bastards play her game without realizing it because societal overlay told him to...

So give us the horrid details bro. We know you want to let it all out.

Why is she viewing you as a monster? Do you have some fault here?

I'm on your side here. I think you sound a little delusional but I understand. The woman's venom is bitter.