In every relationship there is one person who needs the other person more. Usually the gap isn't all that pronounced. This one is a goddamned joke.

I cannot conceive of being this big of a lapdog to a person who habitually lies to you. You let her read the emails and texts as proof. You blew up at the guy who ****ed your wife (probably in the barnhole) rather than your idiot wife who violated your trust.

If my wife did this, the party's in Vegas with my closest buddies if she decides to kill herself. (Which no woman is actually going to do, they are just attention whores.) We're eating steak and banging hookers. And yet, you're taking her back.

In 18 months, she will file for divorce after getting her **** together. Remember how you felt now when she does.

By far the most important issue MBP needs to internalize here. MBP, if there's any chance you and WBP aren't on the same level, you could end up seriously ****ed down the line. If you don't protect yourself, the pain you feel now will seem like a massage compared to the pain you'll feel once WBP takes you for everything you have.

Seriously, **** all the moral righteousness coming out of this thread. Most of it is just opinion. There are objective facts in this case we can use to make a decision about what to do.

1. WBP lied to you, continues to lie to you --> you should not trust WBP to tell the truth
2. WBP contemplated leaving you for a golf pro, in writing --> WBP is not as attached to you as you thought
3. WBP knowingly messed around with a man who is himself attached --> WBP certainly doesn't value commitment in relationships, much less marriage.

Regardless of whether or not you can 'work it out' later on, right now you two are not on the same page. You are not even close to on the same page. You are operating from Disneyland and she is operating from the Bunny Ranch. You need to protect yourself until this gap in perception closes.

You may end up back together after working it out. You may end up splitting. Who knows? Not us, not you, not her. The only thing you can do right now is protect yourself. As a man, the law is not on your side in matters pertaining to marriage. The State will happily help WBP to **** you in the rear with a splintering broomhandle, if that's what it comes down to.

Lawyer up, now. Then try to work it out.

HAHAHAHAH this is so good. this thread has really produced some great comedy next to this tragedy.

if she has a google account for like gmail and you have the password for it

then you can go www.google.com/history/ and see every search she has done and every web page she has gone to for the past few years.

some big red flags would be if she searched for "how to get away with cheating" "hunky golf pros nude" or "STD symptoms"

Wow, that's really disrespectful.

He's going to have sex with you now.

Please don't go for too long after the last cliffhanger lol.

This is unpossible. Her experience with golf pro has rendered her changed in the most fundamental of ways. She will never be what she was; she'll only be what she is, tho perhaps that'll make you happy.

My best to you, mbp.

op stop listening to her and get the texts and email .

spit my drink out

Does she know that? If she doesn't or can be convinced otherwise, you might want to say something like "look, what's most important right now is that we're being completely open and honest with each other. If we're not being completely honest about everything then I just don't see how this can work. I really think I can forgive anything you might have done, and from there we can blah blah blah meow chow. Do you have anything else you want to tell me?"

Then if she says nope she's sticking to 2 maybe 3 kisses, say you're going to need her to contact AT&T and have them send you call logs and text transcripts to make sure that her story is plausible.

I can't go on with this thread. It's too painful to watch you keep yourself in this abortion of a continued relationship.

I pray you find yourself soon.

WHAT!?!?!?!!!!

OK, now you're losing the older, married dudes. I was far less harsh on you than others up until now but this is not right. DO NOT TALK TO THIS WOMAN FOR A WEEK. Then you will not feel sorry for her at all.

JESUS ****ING CHRIST you feel bad for her!? SIGH.

No, it actually proves beyond a reasonable doubt (imo) that they colluded on getting the story straight. They are minimizing how many times they hooked-up. What woman doesn't know exactly how many times she cheated on her husband in this spot if the number is low like 2 or 3? It would be more believable if they had no idea because it was so many times that they had to guess at that point.

i was with you until this one. she's still playing you and getting away with it.

from the searching I've done, it appears difficult to get any message transcripts from AT&T. It may require a subpoena if it's at all possible.

Doesn't mean you can't threaten it though...

I'd totally chip in to get manbearpig a chick to bang.

I started this get transcripts from AT&T meme and I will admit I based the feasibility of that just with a brief google and finding this thread:

http://forums.att.com/t5/Messaging/T...s/td-p/1575344

But that's just one thread from three years ago, so it might not be possible after all, I don't know.

Edit: yeah, it really looks like it is not possible. I'm really sorry for the bad information.

FWIW, I and a woman who was engaged developed very strong feelings for each other and texted a lot. She never even stored me in her phone and always deleted the text messages. And we never really said anything too inappropriate via text.

LOL that thread discredits it about every step of the way. there's a doormat in that thread that got played by a scheming GF to confess something he did.

LOL the mod at the end says At&T does NOT SEND TRANSCRIPTS.

Yes I know I didn't read the thread, just the first post. Really bad I know and I'm sorry.

If there's anything you should be doing a lot of right now, it's looking at this all from your wife's perspective. When you get bored, start looking at things from golf pro's perspective. If you have any time left, put yourself in your own shoes.

I hope you're happy LFS. You being a giant pussy on a public forum has now led to MBP to think it's okay being a giant pussy in his real life. The reason the vast majority of us have lashed out so fiercely against your useless advice (and those like you) is specifically so that MBP doesn't think anyone is on his side and that is his actions are anything but completely unjustified. Your complete and total misunderstanding of what is best for MBP has let you coddle him with your poorly reasoned and infantile sense of decency and "reasonableness".

Congratulations for quite possible making MBP's life even worse than it already is. It must be nice to still think of yourself as the "nice guy" just because your terrible, terrible advice is exactly what an emotional infant wants to hear.

"It wasn't a bartender, it was a golf pro. And he didn't even come inside her, so there's that."

Unfortunately, even as someone raising caution about tone earlier, I have to say that this is all true.

It made me sick to see MBP compliment how in tune LFS was with the real situation. I hereby disassociate myself with the small "ease up, guys" crowd. OP, no matter how well-intentioned they are, anyone endorsing your current softness is not being a friend or a help to you in any way.

I think Kyle will be the top in this instance