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Phone records of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah have reportedly revealed he took a two-minute phone call from a mystery woman using a mobile phone number obtained under a false identity, The Mail Online reports.

Investigators are understood to be treating it seriously because anyone buying a pay-as-you-go SIM card in Malaysia has to fill out a form giving their identity card or passport number.

This ensures that every number is registered to a traceable person.

In investigations into the captain’s life, police are believed to have traced the number to a shop selling SIM cards in Kuala Lumpur.

It was bought “very recently” by someone who gave a woman’s name – but was using a false identity.

The news comes as police are understood to be keen to speak to the captain’s estranged wife.

After waiting for two weeks, they will now formally interview Faizah Khan following pressure from FBI agents assisting the inquiry, the Mail Online reports.

“The whole world is looking for this missing plane and the person who arguably knows most about the state of mind of the man who captained the plane is being left alone,” said a source close to the FBI team.

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03-23-2014 , 04:08 AM

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Just guessing but I would think people getting numbers under false identities is not that uncommon given how that government operates.

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03-23-2014 , 04:15 AM

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Yeah something I read elsewhere said people involved in opposition politics commonly did it to avoid the government tapping their phones. Given the circles the captain moved in it was perhaps not unusual, so maybe it's nothing. Still, the fact that the phone was only bought recently makes it a bit suspicious.

At first I was thinking more along the lines of he was having an affair, but I've since read that apparently he was already separated from his wife. They just still lived together for the sake of the children etc.

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03-23-2014 , 04:18 AM

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New Straits Times is reporting it might not be true anyway:

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KUALA LUMPUR: Police have refuted an online version of a British tabloid report that MH 370 flight Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah had received a call from a mystery woman before take-off.

Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar described the report as “mere speculation”.

He added that investigations were ongoing and confidential.

“If the portal can provide the caller’s number, that will help. If not, as I said, it is a mere speculation,” he said in a short messaging message (SMS) to the New Straits Times.

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03-23-2014 , 04:42 AM

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can we get back to trying to figure out which planet the aliens are from

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03-23-2014 , 05:56 AM

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French satellites have spotted debris in the southern corridor now as well.

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03-23-2014 , 06:03 AM

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03-23-2014 , 07:34 AM

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This is the latest press release. Item 3, tucked away at the bottom, needs some explaining, because it is totally different from what was being implied, if not openly claimed, early on.

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SUNDAY, 23 MARCH 2014
1. Search and rescue operational update

a. The search and rescue operation remains an international effort, co-ordinated by Malaysia. A number of countries are leading in their respective search areas and all countries involved are displaying unprecedented levels of co-operation.

b. This morning, Malaysia received new satellite images from the French authorities showing potential objects in the vicinity of the southern corridor. Malaysia immediately relayed these images to the Australian rescue co-ordination centre.

c. Two Chinese Ilyushin IL-76s have arrived in Perth, and will depart for the search and rescue operation tomorrow at 05:00 and 06:00

d. Two Japanese P3 Orions today left Subang airport for Perth.

e. The Australian rescue co-ordination centre will deploy eight aircraft (four military and four civilian) to the southern corridor today, to conduct visual searching.

f. The Australian Defence Vessel ‘Ocean Shield’, which has a sub-sea remotely operated vehicle, is currently en route to the southern corridor.

g. As of 2:30pm Malaysia time, Australian officials have informed us that they have not made any new sightings regarding MH370.

h. One Indian Navy P8 Poseidon and one Indian Air Force C130 left Subang airport today to join the search and rescue operation in the northern part of the southern corridor, which is being led by Indonesia.

i. A number of other sorties from Subang airport to the southern corridor were cancelled today due to bad weather caused by tropical cyclone Gillian.

j. Australia, China and France have now released satellite images that show potential objects, which may be related to MH370, in the vicinity of the southern corridor. All this information has been forwarded to Australia, as the lead country in the area of concern.

2. Family briefing
a. The Malaysian high level team started a briefing in Beijing this morning for relatives of those on board MH370. The meeting lasted more than 6 hours. This is the third such meeting that has been held. The team presented information to the relatives and answered questions. The Government wishes to reiterate its commitment and continued engagement with the relatives of those on board MH370.

3. Update on ACARS transmission
a. The last ACARS transmission, sent at 1.07am, showed nothing unusual. The 1.07am transmission showed a normal routing all the way to Beijing.

-ENDS-

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03-23-2014 , 08:14 AM

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WTF Malaysia...

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03-23-2014 , 08:15 AM

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This is the latest press release. Item 3, tucked away at the bottom, needs some explaining, because it is totally different from what was being implied, if not openly claimed, early on.

What's different?

The, "All right, good night," transmission occurred at 1:19am.

They have said for many days that in the 12 minutes before that transmission, the plane was rerouted and the tracking equipment disabled.

I am curious what difference you are seeing in item 3?

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03-23-2014 , 08:27 AM

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Wtf Malaysia.

Napoleon the difference is that according to a NYT report, american officials involved in the investigation said that the last ACARS transmission showed that a course change had been programmed in.

I still think pilot suicide/hijack is most likely, other explanations are in play now though assuming that report is true.

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03-23-2014 , 08:38 AM

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lol at everyone ITT dismissing the simple electrical fire explaination for the conspiricatard stuff based on like sixth hand info

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03-23-2014 , 08:49 AM

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JA,

FYI, crowdsourcing is already used very successfully in various global geo/mapping activities.

Here's one example: http://geo-wiki.org

Plenty of other examples of crowdsourcing being used to identify affected areas after natural disasters.

Lots of private/commercial examples as well where map chunks are parceled out for analysis on things like Mechanical Turk.

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03-23-2014 , 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by napoleoninrags2

Basically, what ChrisV said.

I have to admit that I thought that this suggestion of pre-programming had come direct from the Malaysian authorities at an early press conference though, that they had said the course was entered at least 12 minutes in advance. I cannot see a direct quote for that now; it seems to have come from an unnamed official or officials quoted on various news programmes and in newspapers. The Malaysians said that the plane had been deliberately taken off course, and this seems to have been conflated with the twelve minutes in advance thing.

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03-23-2014 , 10:08 AM

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CNN stopped their 24/7 coverage

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03-23-2014 , 10:21 AM

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lack of confirmation of pre-programming change route really thwarts hijacking/pilot theory

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03-23-2014 , 10:38 AM

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If there was 100% sharing of information between all governments and agencies do we think the plane would've been found by now?

I think so.

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03-23-2014 , 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by housenuts

If there was 100% sharing of information between all governments and agencies do we think the plane would've been found by now?

I think so.

That's going to be hard with the Malaysians in charge because I don't think they're capable of interpreting information correctly. For evidence of that just see how they dealt with their own radar report and INMARSAT.

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03-23-2014 , 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

lol at everyone ITT dismissing the simple electrical fire explaination for the conspiricatard stuff based on like sixth hand info

It isn't "sixth hand info" that the plane turned around and then 12 minutes AFTER it had done so the co-pilot radioed in his "good night" to ATC without any mention whatsoever of why the plane was turned around or an electrical fire. Those are facts of this case/investigation. Don't you think if there was a fire in the cockpit he would have mentioned this while still having radio contact rather than just a "goodnight?"

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03-23-2014 , 11:02 AM

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CNN BREAKING NEWS: "They found a wooden pallet in the ocean"

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03-23-2014 , 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

lol at everyone ITT dismissing the simple electrical fire explaination for the conspiricatard stuff based on like sixth hand info

I don't think many people are dismissing it, it's just that that explanation is filled with holes and/or requires some incredible coincidences. it's far from a "simple" explanation.

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03-23-2014 , 11:16 AM

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Wow Jaash. That's some awful posting and awful logic

This is obviously one scenario where crowdsourcing would be an excellent option

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03-23-2014 , 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

lol at everyone ITT dismissing the simple electrical fire explaination for the conspiricatard stuff based on like sixth hand info

Because it is a completely manufactured theory based in absolutely no evidence whatsoever. You could make up any random catastrophe to suit a conclusion like this if you wanted. Not only that, but the premise of this one is actually rather silly. I'm pretty sure ascending to max altitude is not a protocol for extinguishing fires, and in doing so resulted in a chain reaction that lead to them all killing themselves in what appears to be an obvious an deliberate manner.