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GRAPHIC VIDEO

Video is on Facebook.

From the looks of it, it seems the man went for the gun of one of the cops. The woman who picked up a cop's nightstick and went to hit another cop is lucky she's not dead, too.

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03-02-2015 , 03:15 AM

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seriously, is this really news?

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03-02-2015 , 03:55 AM

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Wow. Really graphic, and obviously very sad that a probably mentally ill homeless man has passed.

To me this just illustrates the real issue with all of these cases, it takes 4 or 5 watches to work out if what the police did is justified/moral, and even then its inconclusive; despite being filmed by somebody metres away.

You do hear 'drop the gun, drop the gun' just before he is shot, which means that he probably got hold of a gun of one of the police, who was trying to take it back.

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03-02-2015 , 04:20 AM

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what exactly is the point of this thread?

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03-02-2015 , 04:30 AM

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not watching, but i'll never understand how a warning shot or putting a bullet through someone's leg is a worse idea than point blank murder.

if the guy had a gun then it's whatever, but most of the time the victim wasn't primed to kill.

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03-02-2015 , 04:38 AM

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oh i see now

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03-02-2015 , 05:26 AM

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So here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOaMWtZcAU4

I had to watch this video a couple of times to get an understanding of the situation. Here are a couple of things to note:

At two seconds into the video you can see the black officer holstering his weapon, although he does not seem to secure it into the holster. (http://imgur.com/5H0sXDI,OF4cFMp,cVN...1zIN,T7O9ezi#0)

At around 16 seconds you can see the guy is on his back with his hand, or possibly hands, on the black officer's holster and weapon. You can even clearly see the weapon start sliding upwards out of the holster. This is when he starts yelling at him to let go of his gun. (http://imgur.com/5H0sXDI,OF4cFMp,cVN...1zIN,T7O9ezi#1)

At first I couldn't understand which one of the officer's had shot. The two officer's securing his lower half both have their weapons holstered when the first shot is fired, and the black officer can be seen kneeling on one arm when the first shot goes off (http://imgur.com/5H0sXDI,OF4cFMp,cVN...1zIN,T7O9ezi#3).

However, at 24-25 seconds you can see the larger officer, closest to the camera while still holding touching the person, has his gun in his right hand (http://imgur.com/5H0sXDI,OF4cFMp,cVN...1zIN,T7O9ezi#2). I believe that that officer fired the first shot.

Afterwards the officer to his right pulls out his weapon and fires the remaining four shots. While those shots are being fired the larger officer is not really in a position to have continued firing (http://imgur.com/ij03OvL). I believe this is why there is a slight delay between the first and all of the rest, but why the last shots are in such quick succession.

Of course this is all just my limited understanding of how this situation went down which is reliant on a poor quality video, so I could be wrong.

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03-02-2015 , 05:48 AM

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Cops love to murder people. What else is new?

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03-02-2015 , 06:06 AM

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what exactly is the point of this thread?

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oh i see now

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03-02-2015 , 09:56 AM

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usually im on the side against the cops but hed still be alive if he didnt try goin for the cops gun

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03-02-2015 , 10:03 AM

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Cops love to murder people. What else is new?

Odds on you being a douchefaced numbnut ~99% imo. Unless you're just trolling which is fine.

Real sad story so far, mentally messed up dude fights police men who are on the scene for some burglary call or something. Dude starts fighting them and gets shot.

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03-02-2015 , 10:12 AM

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These guys should be janitors, not cops. Absurd level of incompetence.

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03-02-2015 , 10:13 AM

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im sure they will all back up each others story too, damn white and gold wall of silence

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03-02-2015 , 10:14 AM

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im sure they will all back up each others story too, damn white and gold wall of silence

There seems to be quite some video material about it. At least one of the police officers was wearing a bodycam apparently.

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03-02-2015 , 10:16 AM

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Hard to tell exactly what was going on but lol @ a warning shot

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03-02-2015 , 10:19 AM

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cops are trained to shoot the large extremities, ie the chest area, and they either decide to use deadly force or not, there is not inbetween, trying to shot someone in the leg is ridiculously difficult to do.

Also is it just me, or did anyone else hear "HE HAS MY GUN, HE HAS MY GUN" right before he was killed? It seems like as they were taking him down the homeless man got one of the cops gun which will always mean gg homelessman.

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03-02-2015 , 10:19 AM

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Cops love to murder people. What else is new?

This is by far the dumbest thing I've ever read online.

The cops wouldn't be out "murdering" people if those "innocent" people didn't put themselves in those situations.

edit: Lock it up before the politards start posting.

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03-02-2015 , 10:38 AM

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not watching, but i'll never understand how a warning shot or putting a bullet through someone's leg is a worse idea than point blank murder.

There's few things you can say that more quickly make it clear you don't know what the **** you're talking about. Hitting a still target on the range in a timed test is hard enough. Shooting someone in the leg is some Dirty Harry ****. It's really hard to do.

And the problem with 'warning shots' is that yuo're responsible for every bullet you fire. deliberately missing the bad guy increases the chances you hit someone else.

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03-02-2015 , 10:44 AM

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this isnt one of the incidents where an innocent man put himself in one of those situations but there are plenty where cops use deadly force for no reason. did michael brown put himself in one of those situations? certain cops are def trigger happy and are looking for a reason to take you down. id guess its the cops that love abusing their power or are looking for action

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03-02-2015 , 10:45 AM

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Take your common sense out of here. There's no place for it in threads like this.

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03-02-2015 , 10:48 AM

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LOL @ thinking Brown was an innocent person. Read some facts on the case before you make another idiotic post.

edit: I'm done here until I see another stupid post by someone that has no clue.

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03-02-2015 , 11:28 AM

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If this had happened in a country like UK the guy would be alive, because the cops aren't all packing semi-autos. Also, the cops uses safety holsters making it very hard for a lay person to pull a gun out of it. Apparently the cop didn't holster his gun properly allowing it to be taken out. If he stores his gun properly (is competent) the homeless guy is probably still alive and we're paying for his room/board at jail.

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03-02-2015 , 11:35 AM

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So it's not the homeless guy's fault that he got shot and killed b/c an officer didn't get his weapon properly secured during a scuffle?

Hard to argue with solid logic like that.