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11-25-2016 , 10:37 PM
What were you asking? If women get abducted for sex trafficking? Yes. They do.

Hair color of victim and ethnicity of kidnappers seems pretty irrelevant if that was the main point of your question.
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11-25-2016 , 10:37 PM
I felt so happy for the husband cuz she has nice boobs.
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11-25-2016 , 10:38 PM
I'm going with lesbian pot/sex party that ran it's course. Super mom's need their outlets.
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11-25-2016 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
What were you asking? If women get abducted for sex trafficking? Yes.
Have someone you know read my post to you and explain it. Or don't. You have pretty much answered it, you do not know of any stories like this one where a white woman is snatched jogging and after a high profile search it turns out she was being trafficked by a drug dealing sex ring. But you just know it happens loads.
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11-25-2016 , 10:42 PM
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I'm going with lesbian pot/sex party that ran it's course. Super mom's need their outlets.
That's a fun theory but tying yourself up and dumping yourself by the side of the highway seems excessive for some lesbian fun and some pot.

She was apparently injured when found also, although I've seen some pretty rough lesbian vids on redtube so I guess that doesn't discount your theory.
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11-25-2016 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
What were you asking? If women get abducted for sex trafficking? Yes. They do.

Hair color of victim and ethnicity of kidnappers seems pretty irrelevant if that was the main point of your question.
It's not irrelevant at all. Pretty, white blonde women make the news and have 100k rewards posted for them when abducted. This story was on my Facebook feed everyday. Since you agree women are abducted, where are the other stories like this one? I know that sex trafficking is a thing, but it is not usually achieved this way.
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11-25-2016 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
That's a fun theory but tying yourself up and dumping yourself by the side of the highway seems excessive for some lesbian fun and some pot.

She was apparently injured when found also, although I've seen some pretty rough lesbian vids on redtube so I guess that doesn't discount your theory.
pretty much have to go with the restraints and minor trauma to sell the kidnapping story
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11-25-2016 , 10:59 PM
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Anyone have any links to actual Latino drug dealer sex ring stories where pretty blonde white women are snatched and trafficked? Maybe I'm sheltered but I my sense is it almost always the husband or an aborted runt off attempt.
I had a pretty acquaintance in college who was kidnapped off the street and raped for several days before being killed and set on fire. She was brunette tho and I dont have any links. Not sure if the raping was sex traffic either. So close, yet so far!
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11-25-2016 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Alobar
I had a pretty acquaintance in college who was kidnapped off the street and raped for several days before being killed and set on fire. She was brunette tho and I dont have any links. Not sure if the raping was sex traffic either. So close, yet so far!
No that is a standard abduction/rape/murder. Unless she was kidnapped and sold to the rapist by an organized ring.

I know of shocking stories too, but yeah more far than close.
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11-26-2016 , 12:00 AM
I don't think anyone claimed this was a sex trafficking ring. It's one of many possibilities. No one knows right now. But there is a lot of victim blaming going on online right now, considering no one knows what actually happened.
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11-26-2016 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by revots33
I don't think anyone claimed this was a sex trafficking ring. It's one of many possibilities. No one knows right now. But there is a lot of victim blaming going on online right now, considering no one knows what actually happened.
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...or random drug dealers who just happened to be Latino abducting an attractive white woman for ransom/sex slavery, then chickening out.
I live close the the area. Many comments on the Facebook page include not only the level of speculation you yourself put forth, but much more self assured assertions including how these awful Latino rings have gotten away with this for far too long etc. I did not know that the family and victim had any race issues before reading the blog here, but when I see someone float a fantastic theory based on something that never or nearly never happens I'm going to ask for more reasoning. Sure, sure...anything could happen. A Latino drug gang could have been in small town NorCal and decided to kidnap a high profile victim rather than how they usually work, taking women who will not get much attention with much less danger and heat, or it could have been an alien abduction.

The reason why I asked if you had examples of this type of crime with this type of victim is because it would be national news if it happened. The most common occurrence in these cases is: husband did it. Boyfriend did it. Rando killer/rapist did it. Wild animal or accident. She or her family were involved in criminal activity. Victim was running away from her life. Then way, way, waaaaaaaaaay down the list, so far nobody can provide an example is what you posed.

You seem to have more of a problem with my assertion that blonde white women are bad targets than inventing a Latino sex traffic and drug ring in Redding ca.
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11-26-2016 , 10:18 AM
fugue state obviously
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11-26-2016 , 10:48 AM
The story is very odd. If you kidnap someone you might as well kill them, you are getting life if you get caught either way. If it is an organized crime ring, there would be no way she would be out, maybe some tweekers kidnapped her and didn't know what to do after that. Who knows. A few weeks missing seems in line with some sort of binge, the story just doesn't make sense.

A couple years back there was a teenage girl missing for like 10 months and was found in good shape, people speculated she was pregnant and had the baby. Does anyone remember that story and what came of it?
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11-26-2016 , 11:25 AM
Such a strange story. Why would there be no ransom or murder? Everything seems to point to the idea that she was never really kidnapped, but I feel like if she made it up, she could come up with something better than two random Latino women. What would be their motive to abduct someone for weeks and then let them go?

Will be interesting to see the development. My guess is that the husband had something to do with it because he needed money. I wonder if they can see how much of the 50k actually went towards legitimate search and rescue costs.

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11-26-2016 , 12:01 PM
This doesn't seem right.
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11-26-2016 , 12:28 PM
Our local sheriffs department isn't exactly law and order svu so if it was a fake kidnapping I doubt they would figure it out fwiw
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11-26-2016 , 12:58 PM
What doesn't seem right? Is there a standard playbook for 2 armed women abducting a jogger?

The woman was found chained up and badly beaten by the side of a highway. I don't see any reason to not believe her story just because it's odd. People are odd.

Most of the skepticism seems to come from the fact that it was 2 women who abducted her, that there was no ransom demand (that we know of), and she was suddenly released after 3 weeks. I don't find any of these things particularly hard to believe.
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11-26-2016 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
What doesn't seem right? Is there a standard playbook for 2 armed women abducting a jogger?

The woman was found chained up and badly beaten by the side of a highway. I don't see any reason to not believe her story just because it's odd. People are odd.
She supposedly wrote on skinheadz.com and complained about Hispanics. And then claims she allegedly was abducted by two Hispanic women. She isn't going win the sympathy award, even if the events are true.
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11-26-2016 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
What doesn't seem right? Is there a standard playbook for 2 armed women abducting a jogger?

The woman was found chained up and badly beaten by the side of a highway. I don't see any reason to not believe her story just because it's odd. People are odd.

Most of the skepticism seems to come from the fact that it was 2 women who abducted her, that there was no ransom demand (that we know of), and she was suddenly released after 3 weeks. I don't find any of these things particularly hard to believe.
That is exactly the part thats hard to believe. 1 or 2 of those things happened eh maybe but all 3 things happening? It might have but it still doesn't make it less freaking wierd.
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11-26-2016 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
What doesn't seem right? Is there a standard playbook for 2 armed women abducting a jogger?

The woman was found chained up and badly beaten by the side of a highway. I don't see any reason to not believe her story just because it's odd. People are odd.

Most of the skepticism seems to come from the fact that it was 2 women who abducted her, that there was no ransom demand (that we know of), and she was suddenly released after 3 weeks. I don't find any of these things particularly hard to believe.
Has new info came out? Nowhere does it say she was badly beaten that I've read or that she was chained up. She was released pretty quickly from the hospital. As far as the restrained wording, it could be something as small as a zip tie around her wrists.

Her pintrest page had some survivalist stuff on there although I doubt she lived in the woods for three weeks, but I think it will all come out in time.
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11-26-2016 , 04:02 PM
"Badly beaten" might be whip marks on her ass.
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11-26-2016 , 04:07 PM
I have read that she was badly beaten and chained to an object, but I have also read that almost immediately upon rescue they had her on the phone with her husband, and that she was released from the hospital very quickly. That indicates to me that her wounds were pretty superficial, but obviously I am making a leap there.

Also, I think we've been told she was able to flag down a passing motorist - as far as I know the news reports have never said that somebody noticed her lying in a ditch or something.
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11-26-2016 , 04:10 PM
Ya Ive now read the chained up and badly beaten quote. Then there is this quote from a lady that passed her and called 911 that doesn't seem to match up. I'm not sure what to believe.

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Alison Sutton, 43, said she was driving north on Interstate 5 near County Road 17 in unincorporated Yolo early Thursday when she glimpsed a clearly distressed blond woman in her headlights off to the right.

"When I saw her, it really startled me. She was really close to the road, like almost out in traffic," she told the Daily News.

"She had some piece of fabric in her hands and was waving it up and down. I'm thinking it was a shirt. She was waving it like a flag," she said.

"The woman I saw had long blonde hair and was not appropriately dressed for as cold as it was. She didn't have a jacket," she explained.

"She didn't look like she was hurt, but she did look scared. It was just the feeling that I got. It was just a really brief moment, and I was driving at freeway speed. It was dark. It was just luck that I saw her at all," she said.

"The way she was waving the fabric seemed frantic," Sutton recalled. "I realized if she was that close to getting hit — willing to be that close to freeway traffic — she must really need help."

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Sutton said she couldn't tell if Papini was wearing any restraints when she saw her.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2887530
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11-26-2016 , 06:28 PM
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I read about this last night. The first thing I thought was it seems like something major is missing from the story here.

I won't be surprised at all if it turns out the wife isn't being honest here (unless they run some kind of illegal enterprise). I'd actually be more surprised if this is the whole story and the kidnappers were just random criminals.
I'm so glad 2p2 still has this type of thing within the first 5 posts, lol. This story floats the idea specifically:

Could ANY random 35 year old woman out jogging be kidnapped and then housed/fed for a couple days and then dropped back off onto the side of the road for no reason? (Answer: highly improbable)

The real explanation is she probably (1) had a terrible plan with meh execution or (2) a brilliant plan with terrible execution or (3) she just simply has BPD. All 3 likely explanations are infinitely more plausible than the random-kidnapping angle. I mean I can understand kidnapping a cute bunny because you are temporarily ensnared by your emotions and just want to cuddle its softness into a pillow and then lost interest.

Kidnapping a real human (felony) and then changing your mind after the hard part of the plan has been achieved, and then just abandoning the plan all make news story (in its current form) exceedingly sketch.
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