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Old 04-13-2012, 05:45 PM   #601
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Re: 'I talked/didn't talk to the cops.' Your story.

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Old 04-14-2012, 12:26 AM   #602
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Without looking it up, I'd guess that having a prescription is an affirmative defense to possession. As such the person in possession has the burden of proof at trial of establishing the defense. I'm not sure a dated prescription would carry the day. Better to avoid the situation entirely by keeping very close track of controlled substances in your possession. Having them in your possession, outside of the original bottle, and with a dated prescription seems exceedingly stupid.
Heh, that's the thing about taking painkillers.

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Most people don't ever take their prescription drugs out their original dispensing container so right off the bat you have chosen to engage in behaviour which is abnormal and is going to make you seem sketchy.
I bet it's not abnormal among people who've ever lost their full bottle of painkillers and found it a huge PITA to get it refilled within a few days of the last pickup. In the middle of a police search would be a lousy time to find out something I was doing was considered abnormal or sketchy.

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If you can't establish that you at one point had a prescription and you get a bad cop or somehow piss off the cop I can see actually getting charged. At which point you'll get proof of the prescription and the prosecutor will drop it. Prosecutors have an insane caseload they are not interested in this at all. The only way this proceeds to trial is if there is evidence of selling, previous convictions which make your story unbelievable, or the way the pills were stored or the quantity make the story unbelievable.
Maybe I can even work in a killer line they've never heard before like, "Don't you have anything more important to do?" Here the overworked prosecutors still find time to go after stupid ****.

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Old 04-14-2012, 08:56 AM   #603
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I bet it's not abnormal among people who've ever lost their full bottle of painkillers and found it a huge PITA to get it refilled within a few days of the last pickup.
That in itself is pretty sketchy.

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Maybe I can even work in a killer line they've never heard before like, "Don't you have anything more important to do?" Here the overworked prosecutors still find time to go after stupid ****.
We just had a US law student who summered at a prosecutors office who said pretty much the opposite.

The idea that cops and prosecutors are evil people just biting at the chance to put anyone in jail-- including people they think are innocent-- is ridiculous. It is a belief that is formed in certain demographics because the group as a whole needs it as a coping mechanism as the alternative is that their children and loved ones are criminals.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:23 AM   #604
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C'mon Henry, it's a big country and practically everything is enforced unevenly. I find it hard to believe you don't know that. Just look through one page of the 'ask a cop' thread and see how often, "It depends on the state" is the answer. Where specifically was that summer? You know what, forget it--it doesn't matter. "Pretty much" probably means "with exceptions".

I'm not talking about railroading people they think are innocent, and I'm not saying they're evil. Just that they're lawyers.

The coping mechanism I'm interested in is the one where people succumb to intimidation by the police, don't have anything go wrong, and then try to rationalize by declaring only criminals, morons, or folks trying to prove their manhood would act differently. Just because every argument is a peen contest for you doesn't mean the same for everyone else.
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That in itself is pretty sketchy.



We just had a US law student who summered at a prosecutors office who said pretty much the opposite.

The idea that cops and prosecutors are evil people just biting at the chance to put anyone in jail-- including people they think are innocent-- is ridiculous. It is a belief that is formed in certain demographics because the group as a whole needs it as a coping mechanism as the alternative is that their children and loved ones are criminals.
One of the most violent statements I've ever read.
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My parents were first generation immigrants. My mom worked in a factory making frozen food and my dad worked construction. I was raised blue collar middle class. I have never had a trust fund of any kind nor have I inherited any great fortune.




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Most people don't ever take their prescription drugs out their original dispensing container so right off the bat you have chosen to engage in behaviour which is abnormal and is going to make you seem sketchy.
semi-grunching, but the above quote caught my eye.

In Florida, maybe due to all the seniors living here, tons of people carry their daily doses of prescription drugs in their purses/pockets since they have to take them throughout the day, like when they are at work or away from home. Obviously if you have to take something every six hours, no one expects that you are able to run home every six hours to take your pills.

My wife and I both are in the situation, and our prescription drugs come in 90-day supply bottles that are very large. The idea of carrying those around is silly.

So I would hardly think that most people never take their drugs out of their original bottles. That doesn't even make sense.
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Re: 'I talked/didn't talk to the cops.' Your story.

In addition to ^^^, almost every person I know who uses prescription medication doesn't take just 1 pill a day, there's usually a multitude of pills, and having to carry 6 different bottles is just ridiculous
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Re: 'I talked/didn't talk to the cops.' Your story.

I joke that mom swallows half the pharmacy and she uses one of those super-standard pill boxes that divvies up the pills throughout the day.

I carry my pills in one bottle in my messenger bag and one of them is a big no-no w/o a prescription. I'd still let the cop search me neway and even point it out. I'm such a risk taker.

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Old 04-15-2012, 01:20 AM   #610
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Re: 'I talked/didn't talk to the cops.' Your story.

Since there hasn't been a story told in a while I'll tell about my dumbass buddy...

He was working and his job was to set up a some kind of display at Miramar Air Force base for an airshow. Well he also sold weed on the side and he "forgot" that he had 2 ounces of weed, separated into 3 different bags in his truck. (he says he forgot, I just think he's dumb enough to think he could take weed onto a base and they wouldn't search). So obviously they search his truck and find the weed. Apparently, the military didn't want anything to do with it and called in SDPD. Somehow my buddy bull****ted enough with the cop that they didn't charge him with "intent to distribute" and only charged him with transporting. Once the court case came around he ended up with a $250 fine when he pled down to possession under an ounce.

Now, if he didn't talk to the cops they would have charged him with intent to distribute, transporting and possession, which in turn probably gives him some sort of jail time.
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Old 04-15-2012, 01:25 AM   #611
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Re: 'I talked/didn't talk to the cops.' Your story.

2 oz of weed carries jail time?
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Old 04-15-2012, 01:30 AM   #612
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1 oz is a felony in alot of the US AFAIK
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2 oz of weed carries jail time?
2 oz packaged for sale does...or i should say usually does...
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:39 AM   #614
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Re: 'I talked/didn't talk to the cops.' Your story.

There is a big difference between seniors or people who are on daily prescriptions having their daily or even weekly pills in a different pill carrier and someone having of bunch of loose OxyContin.
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:14 AM   #615
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2 oz packaged for sale does...or i should say usually does...
being in separate bags means "packaged for sale"? i mean, 2oz is enough weed that it would be unwieldy to stuff into a single bag.

anyway, i thought most states had more or less decriminalized such trivial amounts and just issued some sort of fine. i know ohio does for like 4oz or less. i guess only a few do tho.

damn doing research ohio actually has some of the softest penalties. oh well, moar ya kno. ofc ill never be in possession of pot so it dont matter.
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