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Old 08-05-2012, 10:55 PM   #16
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Re: How to maximize EV of free electricity?

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They check electricty use by the hour now?

Any scheme to max out value is going to be time consuming and annoying to actually implement. If you really want to purchase 100 really long extension cords and then advertise discount overnight charge rates as a port for all electric cars ...but they can only charge from 10-6 then go for it I guess. Need to remember pulling the plug on all of them at 5:59 though.
**** would probably blow a circuit though.

or something.
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Old 08-05-2012, 10:59 PM   #17
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Offer a discount rate to whatever area casino wants a huge lighted billboard advertisement. To hell with the residential zoning laws. Or build a baseball stadium.....and they will come.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:17 PM   #18
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Bitcoin farming? Large upfront investment but you won't have cops busting down your door looking for your grow farm.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:20 PM   #19
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Re: How to maximize EV of free electricity?

Hey guys, thanks for the replies. A little backstory - this is for my dad, who has been working for a couple of years now to go "off the grid" fully. He has a solar panel array on this roof, and a bank of batteries that are charged by the panels so things like the fridge and standalone freezer can run overnight when the sun is not out. He also has mostly propane appliances like stove, clothes dryer, heater, etc.

So his electric usage from the grid is minimal already. He was pretty much ready to cut off the grid completely. Then they came up with this promo recently so he is thinking of signing the deal since he won't use much at all during the day anyway, and wants to hammer them at night for the free power
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:20 PM   #20
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Re: How to maximize EV of free electricity?

Try to use your major appliances at night, things like laundry, like everyone else on a time of use pricing program.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:21 PM   #21
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Bitcoin farming? Large upfront investment but you won't have cops busting down your door looking for your grow farm.
actually bitcoin mining will be the most likely outcome. looking at the FPGA and upcoming ASIC hardware from butterfly labs. very profitable but pricey initial capital investment
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:33 PM   #22
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Came to say grow weed. Got slow ponied.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:50 PM   #23
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Re: How to maximize EV of free electricity?



Open up a robot drug den.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:57 PM   #24
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Re: How to maximize EV of free electricity?

they probably have a "fair use " clause in the terms and conditions......

One of the most expensive items to run is an electric hot water cylinder but your dad may already be on solar or gas. Next would be heating and cooling. Surprised your dad wants to hammer the power at night, seeing that he has already invested money to go off the grid. Obviously he is not too concerned for the environment?
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:07 AM   #25
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they probably have a "fair use " clause in the terms and conditions......

One of the most expensive items to run is an electric hot water cylinder but your dad may already be on solar or gas. Next would be heating and cooling. Surprised your dad wants to hammer the power at night, seeing that he has already invested money to go off the grid. Obviously he is not too concerned for the environment?

His primary reason for investing in the solar equipment was not environmental, but was in prep or as a hedge against infrastructure collapse/political or social unrest, rolling blackouts, etc. His motivation for hammering the electric company is due to his battle with them regarding the electronic smart meters they have installed and refuse to remove, which he views as an invasion of privacy and erosion of his individual freedom.

Agreed, I warned him (as an experienced bonus abuser, myself) to be wary of the fine print and that if he consistently costs them money they will likely cut him off or worse. He's ok with that.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:13 AM   #26
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are there any electric cars that don't look super gay?




Also, it's not hard to convert any car to electric. And a lot of people are doing kits. I know a guy who builds/assembles these:

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Old 08-06-2012, 12:16 AM   #27
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His primary reason for investing in the solar equipment was not environmental, but was in prep or as a hedge against infrastructure collapse/political or social unrest, rolling blackouts, etc. His motivation for hammering the electric company is due to his battle with them regarding the electronic smart meters they have installed and refuse to remove, which he views as an invasion of privacy and erosion of his individual freedom.

Agreed, I warned him (as an experienced bonus abuser, myself) to be wary of the fine print and that if he consistently costs them money they will likely cut him off or worse. He's ok with that.
I install solar, and while it's the exception, I've definitely done a few where spite was the main motivating factor.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:18 AM   #28
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If such a thing existed id grow plants 24/7- light and heat is very energy intensive which is why its not profitable for most people, except ofc when ur dealing with a certain plant Id imagine lettuce would be a good fit- i say that because ive seen them grown in factories before in japan- idea being they can be grown organically and never need to actually be washed (the soil is kept under glass)
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:35 AM   #29
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Lol at smart meters being an invasion of privacy, tell him tin foil will keep it from transmitting his thoughts back to the utility...
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Or run dozens of food dehydrator machines making jerky to sell.
NEWMAN: It's the truck, Kramer. The truck!

KRAMER: Look, Newman, I told you to let this thing go.

NEWMAN: No, no, no, no no. Listen to me. Most days, the post office

sends one truckload of mail to the second domestic regional sorting facility in

Sagenaw, Michigan.

KRAMER: (interested) Uh-huh.

NEWMAN: But, on the week before holidays, we see a surge. On

alentine's Day, we send two trucks. On Christmas, four, packed to the brim. And tomorrow,

if history is any guide, will see some spillover into a fifth truck.

KRAMER: (realisation) Mother's Day.

NEWMAN: The mother of all mail days. And guess who signed up for the

truck.

KRAMER: A free truck? Oh boy, that completely changes our cost

structure. Our G and A goes down fifty percent.

NEWMAN: (excited) We carry a coupla bags of mail, and the rest is ours!

KRAMER: Newman, you magnificent bastard, you did it!
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