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07-23-2011 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 11111
lol @ this. From your own link:



Porn of adults depicting children are constitutionally protected, unless they are obscene (and thus unprotected) for some other reason.

IIRC, though, a federal circuit court or two have held that porn is not protected if a real child's face is superimposed onto an adult's body.

Edit: Wow, based on one of the links posted above, it looks like a federal circuit has said the government can criminalize cartoon child porn. Without having read the decision, it seems wrong under Ashcroft.
Just read Whorley, the cartoon porn case. It doesn't stand for the proposition that cartoon child porn is outside the scope of the First Amendment. The statute in Whorley applied to simulated child porn only if it was otherwise obscene (i.e., only to child porn that was, by definition, unprotected for reasons other than the depicted age of the cartoons).
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07-23-2011 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilSteve

If you're fapping to Simpsons cartoons (you weirdo!), restrict yourself to Homer and Marge. Anatomically correct renditions of Lisa, Bart, and Maggie could land you in prison:
Steve,

My post above addresses this, but you could be convicted under the PROTECT Act only if the porn BOTH (1) involves Lisa/Bart/Maggie AND (2) is obscene or lacks serious artistic, literary, etc. value. So if Bart is anal fisting Maggie, you might be in trouble. But if Bart is doing her missionary, I bet you're fine under the statute and, in any event, constitutionally protected.

Last edited by 11111; 07-23-2011 at 10:04 PM.
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07-23-2011 , 11:53 PM
There are books from the 70s that have tons of naked underage girls. I think you can still legally buy them, because they're artistic.

WARNING, don't click these if you are logged on to Amazon!

Lol yep: http://www.amazon.com/Age-Innocence-...1479588&sr=1-1

Holy crap some of the other links to that are scary: http://www.amazon.com/At-Twelve-Port...ref=pd_sim_b_1

****, I just realized now Amazon is going to freaking start suggesting underage girl books. Ugh.
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07-24-2011 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cables
There was a case here in Australia where a man faced child pornography charges because he downloaded a cartoon of Bart Simpson ****ing Lisa Simpson.
I work in Digital Forensics and even scarier there was a similar case in a Southeastern US state in '09 where someone was arrested for the same type of images (Simpsons, Family Guy etc.) even after investigators determined that they were from the banner ads of a tube site.
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07-25-2011 , 11:39 PM
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07-25-2011 , 11:41 PM
i've found that a foolproof method for finding out is whether or not you get arrested within 24 hours
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07-26-2011 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
If you look at illegal porn while youre in jail, wat happens?
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CLEVELAND — A federal grand jury has indicted a 61-year-old Indiana man on a charge of producing and distributing obscene visual representations of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct, the U.S. Attorney office announced.

While he was an inmate at the Elkton Federal Correctional Institution in Columbiana County, William J. Platz drew and distributed to another inmate several of the obscene depictions of minors between August 2007 and April 2008, the indictment says.

If convicted of this charge, Platz faces five to 20 years in prison and up to a $250,000 fine, plus five years to life on parole. The case was investigated by the FBI’s Youngstown office.
Link

This guy was the photographer for picture day at my elementary school back in the day.
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07-26-2011 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Question for RayPowers: Let's just take the most extreme example. Let's say you browse to a site that has an image of a girl who's 17.9. You click the thumbnail, look at the pic, and go on about your way (or your browser just downloads the thumbnail - does the law distinguish?). For some reason the FBI raids your computer. Technically could you go to jail and have to register as a sex predator over that? Does the girl have to look obviously underage?
Sorry I missed this before.

Keep in mind that my area of expertise (if you even want to call it that) is on what the sites can get in trouble for and the legalities regarding their content, not what happens to an end viewer.

<talking out of my butt>If a picture of child porn just showed up, and you saw it, I do not believe you are necessarily liable. The internet is an annoying place, and too many sites have pops and pop unders and whatever else and it is was too easy for you to accidentally see something illegal if someone wants to shove it at you. There has to be some intent involved, like if your google search included lolita, school girls or some such.

If you check here you can see that essentially the oregon supreme court took it one step further to possession or paying for it being against the law, not viewing it. However, even that article says that it varies from state to state.</talking out of my butt>
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07-27-2011 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
If you look at illegal porn while youre in jail, wat happens?
There is a case right now where someone on trial for possession and manufacturing of child pornography has been given his child porn as evidence in jail while awaiting trial as he is acting as his own attorney.
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07-27-2011 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DunlopFuzzy
There is a case right now where someone on trial for possession and manufacturing of child pornography has been given his child porn as evidence in jail while awaiting trial as he is acting as his own attorney.
Not sure what the big deal is. He has the right to review the evidence against him. The video has already been made, it's not hurting the minor if he views it a bunch more times while sitting in jail.
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07-28-2011 , 12:14 AM
Sure it is... the thought that the person who raped you now gets to replay the videos over and over, most likely to his enjoyment. Insult to injury.
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07-28-2011 , 01:52 AM
There have been cases where a doctor testifies his best judgement using the Tanner Scale.
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07-28-2011 , 02:05 AM


**** someone already did that. I was about to say most obvious joke, hiding it in a spoiler come on now.

Fine then

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07-28-2011 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Yuth
There have been cases where a doctor testifies his best judgement using the Tanner Scale.
As someone who went to a mostly black school in 7th grade and was kind of a late developer - I can say I hope there's different variations of that scale based on race. I took swimming class and had to shower with what looked to me like grown men.
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07-28-2011 , 02:51 PM
Dylan Ryder is a hottie
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