All right, not sure if this is exactly the right place. Basically I've got a number of friends who I've been friends with since I was in early school,and I'm 24 now. We hang about probably 1-2 times a week and do the usual stuff really, video games, night clubs/drinking/parties, sports etc

Lately a couple of guys have been really taking the piss and being douche bags and I'm not sure how to handle it without it being a huge scene.

One guy is fine 90% of the time but he makes a lot of snide and immature/offensive remarks that nobody really enjoys or appreciates. So stuff like:

you'll be chatting to him and at the end of the conversation he might say "okay princess" and laugh to almost credit himself because nobody else is laughing.

if you walk past someone who is fat or maybe less pleasing on the eye in public sometimes he'll say aloud whilst near them or having just walked past them "uuuuuuugh fatty/uggo" etc which makes everybody extremely uncomfortable.

when you talk about genuinely serious subjects he can't really engage and makes immature jokes often. If you talk about anything that isn't really simple/immature for too long he will go silent and get teasy and almost make you feel bad for freezing him out of the conversation.

He often makes really distasteful jokes about stuff like rape/kids which is probably the most annoying thing.

I guess overall he can just be really immature/inappropriate and thinks it's funny which nobody else does because everyone has gone way past all that. I know it's just a case of saying "look mate you're being really immature and we don't appreciate it, just stop doing XYZ" but I get the feeling he wouldn't change his behaviour and may even increase it just for the hell of it.

I don't wanna go down the route of being rude to the guy or freezing him out. We'll call him immature guy.

Second guy is quite dumb which is where I think a lot of his problems come from. He does a lot of drugs and they seem to rule his life. We'll call him guy B.

He's done so many things really that it's impossible to list them all but the most recent thing is he borrowed some $ off another mutual friend and hasn't paid him back despite owing him it for about 18 months. Roughly about $500.

Both these guys hang out regularly and guy B openly spends money on other stuff before making any effort to pay back our mutual friend. Notably drugs. So i brought it up with guy B that he should pay back our mutual friend because it's showing a real lack of respect and is just a douche move. He agreed and promised to pay it back slowly which is fine by all parties.

So he paid back something like $40 the other night, and within about 2hrs he asked for the $ back so he could go and buy more drooogs. Our mutual friend agreed despite the protests from everyone else in the room, but he is fairly passive about everything and generally gets used by guy B.

Another example of guy B's behaviour would be one time he rang me before I was heading to his place and asked me to pick him and his gf up some alcohol. I asked him if he had the money to pay me back for it when I arrived and he said yeah. Upon arriving he smiled and told me he didn't have the money and would pay me back, it wasn't a case of thinking he had it he just lied to get me to buy it and bring it over.

He also tries to make out you're the wrong one when you ask for money back, like I asked for my $ the next day and he turned to the rest of our friends and rolled his eyes.

I could list more examples but I've basically come close to not seeing this guy because he's been a douche for about 2 years. This mostly coincides with getting a mortgage on his own flat and finding a gf and doing drooogs/alcohol almost every weekend.

Should i just cut guy B loose? I've spoke to him on a number of occasions about this stuff but he never seems to change his behaviour long term. I should also mention I don't do drugs but I do drink most weekends.

stop hanging out with falcon?

no advice on the second guy.

applies to first guy as well

if you care enough tell the first guy to shut the **** up and stop acting like a moron. If he doesnt like it head butt him and carry on with your day.

Second guy is a selfish pot head. Not much you can do with him

You are not required to remain friends with people you no longer enjoy spending time with.

Lol. Stop hanging out with jmakin for #2 ldo

Yeah this is the real catch though because I've known guy A since I was about 6 and I enjoy his company 70% of the time. It's just these stupid small things he does regularly accumulate to piss everyone off slowly.

Guy B I've known since I was in pre-school, so all my life. And again he can be really great company and "like his old self", although these moments are becoming more like glimpses.

So I guess it's just being a bit too loyal and those times when he is like his old self are enough to keep me hanging out with guy B.

pretty jealous of guy #2. i lived with two buddies who wouldn't even give me the stem from their weed when i was broke, and they don't even smoke stem.

Drooooooooogs

yeah it's dem droogies

Get new friends.

You've grown up. They haven't. If they haven't by now, they probably won't.

MM MD

falcon has ok princess written all over him.

I would start calling them out when they do this stuff/make your displeasure known. If they don't start to change then move on.

I moved on from a bunch of friends at that age, I think it's perfectly ok. Sometimes people who are good to be friends with at one stage in your life aren't at another.

The problem is that if you hang out with these people, you often do it with other friends at the same time. So, not being friends with them might mean losing contact with a bunch of people you actually enjoy hanging out with. Guy 1 sounds like he is still in high school. He might be salvagable if he grows up. As for guy 2.... I would never lend him money, never borrow money from him, anything. I dunno. People keep acting like because other people let them.

guy A, i would just ignore him.

guy B, i would never lend him money

problem solved.