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View Poll Results: Which way do you remember it?
Berenstein Bears 140 77.78%
Berenstain Bears 25 13.89%
I Don't Remember 15 8.33%
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:29 PM   #101
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Re: The Great Berenst#in Bears Debate

Should we kill all of the 'e' people just to be safe? Clearly they are here to infiltrate and just dont know it yet
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:43 PM   #102
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The Great Berenst#in Bears Debate

Alobar,

I've been thinking about your universe created last Thursday theory. While technically it could be true, it's just as likely that we are just some entity's imagination etc.

While that could certainly be possible, it doesn't coincide with the things we observe in this world, even things as simple as memories of longer ago than that.

So sure, many other theoretical constructs could explain our existence, but it's fairly pointless to consider them when they require us to ignore the reality defined in that construct.

The parallel universe theory, however, is completely consistent with whatever theory you believe re: our existence.

The only other explanation is that ****loads of people can't keep the difference between E and A straight in their memory, which is far more of a reach than the simple parallel universe theory. Thus, Occam's razor tells us the most likely explanation is indeed parallel universes.
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Old 08-15-2015, 06:51 PM   #103
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What if we are living in a computer simulation and the programmer types berenstein first then deleted it and changed it to berenstain. That almost seems more likely than parallel universes to me.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:19 PM   #104
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That wouldn't explain people remembering A.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:30 PM   #105
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Alobar,

I've been thinking about your universe created last Thursday theory. While technically it could be true, it's just as likely that we are just some entity's imagination etc.
How do you figure that? In whatever reality it is we are actually in we don't know if its even possible that a reality can exist that is simply a construct of somethings imagination. I imagine lots of stuff, I doubt any of those imagined beings have consciousness. So it either takes some form of super being or for the correct set of laws to be part of the laws of the universe that we currently don't understand. Neither of which may actually be possible in any of the levels of reality of Reality. However...

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While that could certainly be possible, it doesn't coincide with the things we observe in this world, even things as simple as memories of longer ago than that.

So sure, many other theoretical constructs could explain our existence, but it's fairly pointless to consider them when they require us to ignore the reality defined in that construct.

the universe spontaneously being created last thursday in a state that makes it appear as tho it is much older and with people who have memories of Barenstien Bears is entirely consistent with what we know of the laws of the universe in this construct, so this seems much more likely to me than..

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The parallel universe theory, however, is completely consistent with whatever theory you believe re: our existence.
this theory, which may or may not even be possible so I don't see how it can be argued that it is consistent with whatever theory of existence you believe in.

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The only other explanation is that ****loads of people can't keep the difference between E and A straight in their memory, which is far more of a reach than the simple parallel universe theory. Thus, Occam's razor tells us the most likely explanation is indeed parallel universes.
I agree that no matter what theory you ascribe to it is much more likely than millions of people incorrectly remembering a trivial detail of their youth. That is so ludicrous that clearly there is something else going on here, be it the matrix or something as far fetched as people dissolving into a parallel universe whose only difference is a letter on some childrens books.
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:34 PM   #106
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That wouldn't explain people remembering A.
Those people were added to our program by the creator after the edit had already been made. As for why we don't remeber them not existing, implanted memories. This was a case of a programmer making a typo and correcting it but forgetting to reset the memory of the spelling before the correction
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:43 PM   #107
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The human memory is very flawed. So is human reasoning, apparently, if people jump on board to believe a ridiculous parallel universe argument rather than accept they can't remember how a child's book was spelled that they read 20+ years ago.
Look at the absurdity of religion, thats all the proof you need that human reasoning is flawed.
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Old 08-15-2015, 08:26 PM   #108
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I'm not ashamed to say that not only would have spelled it without the A, I would have spelled it "Bernstein."
pretty much.
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Old 08-15-2015, 09:42 PM   #109
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I initially came in here to vote, gloat, and then lol at all of you idiots as usual. However, I realized I have some important information.

I knew it was Berenstain because I looked at it and figured it out at some point in the last decade. However...

I was fairly confident that the last name of the authors was Berenstein, and that they had changed the fictional name to Berenstain so as to appear less Jewish in a more antisemitic era. I had plans to quickly check Wikipedia to confirm this and then educate/lol at all of you. Of course, I discovered that Stan and Jan's last name is and "always was" Berenstain also.

Where did this theory of mine come from? I don't recall ever reading about it. It was just there in my brain. To recap:

1) I probably thought it was Berenstein until some time in the last decade.

2) When I became educated that the bears were called Berenstain, I still believed that the authors were Berenstein. I was probably 60% confident of this up until 45 minutes ago.

3) I had a plausible explanation for why there was a difference in spellings, but that explanation came from nowhere that I can identify in the external world.
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Old 08-15-2015, 10:09 PM   #110
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In a somewhat strange coincidence, we had a pet bear when I was a child. One day, he peed on the carpet. The mark is still there. If this evidence doesn't contradict the universe-switching theory, I don't know what does.
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A pet bear?!
I would like some more info on having a pet bear. I'm looking to push the boundaries for my little boy, and I fear just having dogs isn't going to cut it.
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Old 08-15-2015, 10:26 PM   #111
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I would like some more info on having a pet bear. I'm looking to push the boundaries for my little boy, and I fear just having dogs isn't going to cut it.
This should help you with the permitting aspect of owning a pet bear:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...bear/22207315/

What else would you like to know?
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Old 08-15-2015, 10:38 PM   #112
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Read a ton of these books as a kid and my mind is officially blown.
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Old 08-15-2015, 10:47 PM   #113
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A few years ago I was talking to an old geezer in a pub, just humouring him really, and apropos of nothing he suddenly says: "You know a funny thing? I saw February written F-E-B-R-U-A-R-Y the other day", and I'm like "And?", and he's like "Well it's funny they mis-spelt it like that", and I'm like "No, that's the correct spelling, the first R is just not pronounced..."

And basically he didn't believe me, and thought I was either stupid or pulling his leg, but as we talked there was this growing look of mixed horror and embarrassment that he'd been spelling this common word wrong his whole life, and he must have been about 75.

I guess if he lived to internet times and was excitable and prone to post things on blogs, he might be arguing that he could swear blind that it was spelt F-E-B-U-A-R-Y when he was a young man, and he must have been flipped into a parallel universe.

The point, anyway, is that it's quite easy for the human brain to have a mistaken idea about the way a word is spelt (spelled), even for a common word that is seen very frequently, even for 75 years.
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:15 PM   #114
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At the risk of blowing your mind, most, but not all, intelligent educated English speakers pronounce the first r in February.
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:22 PM   #115
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I honestly remember thinking there was something weird about the title, and I might have mispronounced it (even tho apparently I was correct) as a kid.

100% I remember the name/title as being kinda quirky and weird.

This makes total sense to me.
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:27 PM   #116
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I'm 100% positive I thought people pronounced the title wrong and since they were the majority I just assumed it was a weird pronounciation.

This whole thing is just another vindication to the countless things I knew I was smarter than other people about growing up.
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:30 PM   #117
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At the risk of blowing your mind, most, but not all, intelligent educated English speakers pronounce the first r in February.
you mean English as in England? I don't think I've ever heard the R pronounced
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:33 PM   #118
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So is the decidedly correct pronunciation

"bearn-STAIN"

Because that's how I've recalled it into memory after not seeing one of these books for well over 20yrs. But looking at the spelling now I would have to said its

"bare-en-STEEN"

Oh the humanity!
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:37 PM   #119
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Yea the people who remember it with an E just developed critical thinking skills slower than others.

Sorry you were slow as children. Apparently you were not alone.
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:51 PM   #120
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At the risk of blowing your mind, most, but not all, intelligent educated English speakers pronounce the first r in February.
You're probably right, globally, but in England almost nobody pronounces it unless they're particularly pretentious. There are quite a few words that Americans tend to pronounce closer to the way the word is spelt, such as cemetery, which most Brits would pronounce "cemetry" (hence the Smiths songs 'Cemetry Gates' which was an accidental mis-spelling that ended up being on the record sleeve etc.)
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Old 08-16-2015, 12:54 AM   #121
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I think I mustve blocked out the 'a' mentally because the word stain is a nasty word
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Old 08-16-2015, 10:45 AM   #122
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It seems clear to me that we've all observed quantum mechanics at work in the macrocosmos in the form of a Schrodinger's cat scenario. In this universe (there are no parallel universes, lol, that's just silly -- God, Jesus, and the Rev. Billy Graham would never permit something like that to happen) there is a book called The Berenst#in Bears. This title exists in a state of quantum flux, i.e., the "#" is at once both "a" and "e" until the very instant it is observed. At that point the two possibilities collapse into a single static form and become either an "a" or an "e" depending on whether the observer is a Christian or a heathen.
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Old 08-16-2015, 12:12 PM   #123
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Vishnu would disagree
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:39 PM   #124
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Yea the people who remember it with an E just developed critical thinking skills slower than others.

Sorry you were slow as children. Apparently you were not alone.
basically this
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:06 PM   #125
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My theory is that aliens are testing our susceptibility to mind control. They transport us into parallel universes every now and then, changing little things such as the 'e' in a popular children's book to see if many people worry about it or just accept it as a mistake on their part. As time goes on they'll slowly change larger things in an attempt to eventually transport us into a parallel universe where they exist.
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