Until she pulls the same move on him.

I'd like to change my earlier answer to this one.

Fwiw, which is not much given my own social skills, I think there's a much higher chance than most that coworker is into OP.

OP should of course not act on this in anyway, and if he does it is likely to be embarrassing. Girls with fiances are bad targets- wait till she's married for over a year.

Ya, own goals.

First of all, what everyone else itt has been saying has been totally, totally wrong. They think you've been pining for this chick for over a year ("women don't like men who wait a year to make their move") but you just started pining, like, two days ago--that's completely different! It's pretty much fine to make your move right now; waiting would be creepy. The trick behind avoiding "sexual harassment" claims is not to make any unwanted sexual advances, or at least any obviously unwanted sexual advances. So as long as you can plausibly think she wants it, you're golden! Also, the 6-month mark after moving in together is prime "itchin" time.

Now here's a little warning; believe it or not, I have it on good authority that socially skilled, attractive women...actually will flirt...just for..."fun", like to see how a guy reacts and toy with him. I know, I know--that seems pretty misleading and unfair, right? Like it *should* just be used as a strict gateway to sexual relations! Anyway, just stew on that for a bit; this chick may actually *be* flirting with you and yet...not trying to get you romantically. A horrifying possibility, but one you should consider.

Now, I'm not telling you to trick her into anything but sometimes those after a mere thrill of innuendo can be moved from point A to point B with the help of a little alcohol. Obviously, don't try to get her drunk at the office because you're so career-focused. Instead, you might try to take her some place like a bar that serves drinks. That may seem like a tough sell, but in between work-talk maybe slip in something creative like, "Hey, you wanna grab a quick drink after work?" The great part about this plan is, once you're at the bar, it's fairly easy to add a second drink and so on. You may even find it improves your social skills AND her looks! Assuming everything goes well, btw, THIS would be the appropriate time to say, "If only you weren't engaged..."

And now I'll just straight-out ask; why do you think it noteworthy that her fiance proposed to her, instead of her proposing to him? Do you think it's even common for the chick to be the one proposing? You don't seem to be expecting her to ask you out now, so what gives?

Holliday,

You are a seriously funny guy!

the fact she never texted you out of the blue to talk, or ever initiated a convo in which she wanted to do something with you outside of work non business related could be damning

Get her to set you up with her single girl friends.

judging from the posts ITT, it might be a better idea for him to develop some kind of familiarity with romantic interaction before doing this.

Jeez this OP makes me sad. And that's coming from someone who is average (at best) with women.

Beyond the fact that she isn't interested, she is engaged, she is out of your league, etc...getting involved with a co-worker is an AWFUL idea, especially since you have a good job. Just give it up. Immediately. Spend some of that hard earned money on dating sites.

To complete the metaphor: it's a complete luck fest.

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Homicidal maniac:




Genocidal maniac:




Suicidal maniac:




Fratricidal maniac:




Spermicidal maniac:

As someone who's recently engaged, lol. Also **** you and **** off.

Oh cool! OP's crush's betrothed has made an appearance.

OP's crush's betrothed, how does it feel to be a cuck?

Why has cuck become such a buzzword.

Is it because there are that many cucks nowadays? Or is it because so many people are discovering that they're cucks?

Are these two things mutually exclusive?

I have so many questions.

Thanks Trump

Update: I took a sick day yesterday, my first sick day since mid last year. I wasn't really sick...just felt a little off, ended up playing some live poker (nothing numbs the pain quite like poker). She texted me once, but it was entirely work related. In my email to my boss saying I'm sick, I cced her and asked her to do a task, and her text was a question on the task.

Today, within 5 min of starting work she pings (instant message) me asking if I'm feeling better which I say yes. She says she glad I'm feeling better, twice, but then goes straight to a work related topic.

Not once, but twice! Two times! Within FIVE minutes of starting work.

The funny thing about all this is even if people advised OP to pursue this chick he would never go through with it.

Not sure if you realize this or not, but when a girl asks if you're feeling better, she's really asking if you feel good enough to **** her. She probably wants you to bend her over her desk and go to town while she screams compliments about your work prowess.

this is so sad

That's not an update at all! That's an announcement that you skipped out of trying anything! Do you take it as a good sign that she asked you how you're doing?

OP,

Open up to her a bit more, not in the first couple outside work topics, but eventually tell her you have a date that you are looking forward to. See how she takes it.

I know for sure I don't have to worry about a "sexual harassment" claim or the possibility of her "flirting" for fun (or to intentionally misleading me), she's too kind for that. I've shared some things w/ her that I normally wouldn't share w/ a co-worker: such as venting against a few other people and I also showed her something I made on my own time that would be valuable to the company but that I didn't want to give to them for free (as I made it mostly on my own time). She could have "reported" some of these things and possibly gotten me into a bit of trouble but she never has.

For the proposal, him proposing to her, I don't think it's very noteworthy, but it matters a little since if it was the other way around (rare but it can happen) it would indicate that she thinks she's "found the one" a little more strongly. I do know that probably 80%+ of proposals are initiated by the guy.