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06-26-2012, 11:48 PM
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#106
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newbie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 37
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
dude you're on the internet complaining about your girlfriend to anonymous dudes
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Some offense taken as you keep trolling me, but you have a number of very odd posts in your history (Zelda, SSRI's, little brothers wanting to borrow your pipe, etc.). I didn't review all of them, but I am pretty sure you have had more than your share of girl problems and have a number of other issues. I thought I remember seeing a picture of you in red wings jersey or something (If I am wrong I apologize). I have made 25 posts in 5 years and you have made 20,000. So yes, I am asking an internet forum full of guys for advice, but if anyone should empathize with that it should be you. You can keep making demeaning posts, but I feel very good to be where I am at and I don't feel ashamed for seeking advice.
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06-27-2012, 12:25 AM
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#107
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Mark's Dirty Sanchez
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: can i has 2011 victorino & napoli?
Posts: 6,845
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by Bondermanfan
if I wasn't able to provide financially would she want to be with me?
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jfc, i hope so. if not, why on god's green earth are you still with her??? are you really suggesting that she's only spent the last 2 years with you because you can provide financially for her? or wouldnt have if you couldnt? i feel like you have some MAJOR issues you need to work on as well as some very unhealthy feelings towards her, your relationship, and relationships in general.
also, if you're admitting what i said about her being a 7 is true, then you're saying that 2 points on the hotness scale (if you will) is enough to overcome all the negative traits that you dont like about her. that seems crazy to me, but if it is true for you then you might as well go ahead and marry her.
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06-27-2012, 02:18 AM
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#108
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enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 95
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by Bondermanfan
Honestly, I am not big on material things for myself. So I have no problem sacrificing to pay off her debt and big party if I feel completely appreciated for doing so. That would be a large sacrifice on my part, which would be fine if I knew it would be repaid by a lot of love on her part. It is tough because by giving a lot financially, I would expect to be paid back through love and happiness. I have a feeling the sacrifices we would need to make to pay off the debt would actually cause the opposite.
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Originally Posted by 34TheTruth34
jfc, i hope so. if not, why on god's green earth are you still with her??? are you really suggesting that she's only spent the last 2 years with you because you can provide financially for her? or wouldnt have if you couldnt? i feel like you have some MAJOR issues you need to work on as well as some very unhealthy feelings towards her, your relationship, and relationships in general.
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I think he is suggesting it. If he isn't, then I am.
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06-27-2012, 02:49 AM
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#109
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Crushing
Posts: 2,324
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by Bondermanfan
The purpose of my post was to point out my concerns. I did not mean to degrade the girl I love in anyway. Just point out my concerns in the way I see perceive them. I obviously opened myself up to be judged by being judgmental, but I just appreciate other opinions and do not want to be blinded by love. The things that are holding me back seem like significant issues in my own mind and many have agreed with me.
On the other hand, I do love her.
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Of all things, complaining that a woman has a temper? Student loans? A dysfunctional family? You also contradict yourself saying she's the most caring person, but also super selfish...
I get your complaint about her not being driven, try to see if you can help her change that in any way. Again, not going with most of the drabble posted here - try and understand her a bit more, maybe there's reasons behind what you perceive is her lack of drive. (if you really love this one...)
Good luck with this man - communicate with her, not with us.
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06-27-2012, 05:02 AM
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#110
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ELIte
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 53,650
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by Duke0424
Theres 2 sides to every story, im not sure anyone can answer this without knowing both of you.
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Thankfully for OP we're not here to judge him or his credibility. If it's the way he feels it's the way he feels. How she feels has 0 impact on the decision he is trying to make.
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Originally Posted by SleeveOfWizard
I'll go against the grain here and tell you to not listen to most of these people too carefully. You're mostly posting your concerns about her here, and the extent to which the positive aspects of your relationship outweigh the negatives isn't clear.
These are things that you will figure out talking to her, not OOT. It actually sounds to me, like you're just a bit scared, or possibly think you're not capable of holding down the fort in a marriage yet (which is completely understandable).
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The fact that he hasn't already felt comfortable approaching her with these things or that they haven't naturally come up in conversation is evidence that he shouldn't marry her. Easy, free and open communication is the hallmark of a healthy relationship.
I'm also not so sure "you need to completely change who you are and add 30 IQ points" is going to be very effective either.
He likes the way she looks (or her face, at least) and that she outwardly appears to be a nice girl. Beyond that, there was nothing else positive about her he could list. If you are going to spend the rest of your life (EVERY SINGLE MINUTE OF EVERY SINGLE DAY) with someone, then uhh a list of grievances that are basically irreparable is just evidence that it's time to walk away.
Last edited by Karak; 06-27-2012 at 05:15 AM.
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06-27-2012, 05:17 AM
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#111
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Administrator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: This just seems ridiculous to me
Posts: 6,358
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Re: Girl Advice
love means you can point this woman to this thread, discuss all that it means and grow from there. if you can't do that, it ain't love, dude.
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06-27-2012, 05:27 AM
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#112
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 20,565
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by Bondermanfan
Some offense taken as you keep trolling me, but you have a number of very odd posts in your history (Zelda, SSRI's, little brothers wanting to borrow your pipe, etc.). I didn't review all of them, but I am pretty sure you have had more than your share of girl problems and have a number of other issues. I thought I remember seeing a picture of you in red wings jersey or something (If I am wrong I apologize). I have made 25 posts in 5 years and you have made 20,000. So yes, I am asking an internet forum full of guys for advice, but if anyone should empathize with that it should be you. You can keep making demeaning posts, but I feel very good to be where I am at and I don't feel ashamed for seeking advice.
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- you're current involvement in an abysmal idiotic thread is something i am well versed in
- zelda, ssri's (never taken them but ok) seem cool
- digging up "dirt" on someone to draw up a soliloquy to defend yourself for whining about your girlfriend on the internet furthers my argument that you are pathetic
PS - you aren't funny, clever, or coy. you're also obviously co-dependent and in a toxic relationship. Stop embarrassing yourself, and thanks for reading my poasts.
SEACREST OUT
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06-27-2012, 05:45 AM
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#113
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Administrator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: This just seems ridiculous to me
Posts: 6,358
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
- you're current involvement in an abysmal idiotic thread is something i am well versed in
- zelda, ssri's (never taken them but ok) seem cool
- digging up "dirt" on someone to draw up a soliloquy to defend yourself for whining about your girlfriend on the internet furthers my argument that you are pathetic
PS - you aren't funny, clever, or coy. you're also obviously co-dependent and in a toxic relationship. Stop embarrassing yourself, and thanks for reading my poasts.
SEACREST OUT
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what is the purpose of this post? i'm in the mood to fight. so i'll just go ahead and say this post of yours is something that resembles the excrement of a diseased tick.
Last edited by Mat Sklansky; 06-27-2012 at 05:46 AM.
Reason: Ticks are small arachnids in the order Ixodida. Along with mites, they constitute the subclass Acarina. Ticks are ectoparasit
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06-27-2012, 05:49 AM
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#114
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adept
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,155
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by Bondermanfan
So I have no problem sacrificing to pay off her debt and big party if I feel completely appreciated for doing so. That would be a large sacrifice on my part, which would be fine if I knew it would be repaid by a lot of love on her part. It is tough because by giving a lot financially, I would expect to be paid back through love and happiness.
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wowow
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06-27-2012, 06:40 AM
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#115
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sweatshop Fantasy Camp
Posts: 25,187
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by dalerobk2
VR,
That was A+ work and the hell with anyone who says otherwise.
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+1
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Originally Posted by Karak
Thankfully for OP we're not here to judge him or his credibility. If it's the way he feels it's the way he feels. How she feels has 0 impact on the decision he is trying to make.
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I would disagree. It is pretty clear from the first post without even reading the topic that the problem is OP much more than the girl -- reading the topic makes it obvious. Coming to OOT for help though will just reinforce his view since most of the guys here are more broken than OP is. How the GF feels is important because it is how any girl would feel and it is what should be guiding OP's changing of himself if he wants any hope of ever being compatible with a girl worth dating. Now I'm not saying this is the girl for OP but if he doesn't face that he is a very substantial part of the problem he can look forward to having this problem over and over again.
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06-27-2012, 07:25 AM
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#116
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 850
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Re: Girl Advice
I dated a girl VERY seriously to your girl for years. Minus the debt, they sound amazingly similar.
Get out now, OP. Find someone that you can have a good, intellectual conversation about a movie after you see it. Find someone you can learn from and communicate with on an even level.
It doesn't matter what she looks like. There are millions of hot chicks and they all lose their looks.
If you get married, it will work for a little while, but you two will grow to resent eachother and it will fall apart. Then it gets ugly after the split, and you wind up paying too much for this mistake.
And voraciousreader, that was amazing.
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06-27-2012, 08:19 AM
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#117
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makes nurses cry
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: sits there stoically
Posts: 38,394
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Re: Girl Advice
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Originally Posted by Henry17
Coming to OOT for help though will just reinforce his view since most of the guys here are more broken than OP is.
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Like...I can see where you would think this after reading the OP, but 98% of the thread has been saying the same thing as you. He's nearly getting the scantest amount of reinforcement possible here.
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06-27-2012, 08:37 AM
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#118
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hatfield, PA
Posts: 3,181
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Re: Girl Advice
how is the fact that OP's girlfriend is only with him because hes got money any different from OP only being with her because she's hot?
that said, i dont think OP's girlfriend is only there for the money. obviously its part of it but i think she's more into the fact that he's ambitious and talented and able to provide - bringing balance to everything about her essentially. if she really is a 9 like OP says, she could get a man who makes much more than $80k thats for sure and get married before he realizes what OP has come to realize about her.
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06-27-2012, 08:57 AM
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#119
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Still D.Y.E.
Posts: 20,015
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I don't think the negatives are that bad. Student loan debt kinda sucks, but at least she has a job, and who cares if its not something you prefer?
Please don't have kids, whatever you do. Questioning her intelligence and all, doesn't make you seem like great relationship partner.
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06-27-2012, 09:09 AM
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#120
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Still D.Y.E.
Posts: 20,015
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Can you convince her to pick up some extra hours at the hospital or a second job waitressing?
What is her degree in?
I'll repeat it again, if you do end up getting married, don't have kids until you're financially stable.
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