E-cig Thread 2012: Alternative to Smoking

[jpindacasa]

also, the 20% discount in the op expired yesterday. but I found another code that seems like it will work for 15% off. apollo coupon code = thankyou

[_dave_]

looks good, you need more juice and different flavours

[Ankimo]

Originally Posted by Ineedaride2

Ordered some more new-to-me juice from backwoods brew.

Got the berry bliss, waffle, and some more menthol and caramel cappuccino.

Gotta say that for flavor and throat hit, this place never disappoints.

At this time, we are not shipping outside of the USA and Canada.

fml, none of the good juice shops ship intl

[Ineedaride2]

Originally Posted by bobhalford

What's the berry bliss like? I've tried some of Don's fruit flavors and I don't really like them. They kind of have an artificial taste.

You ought to try the Malty. At first I hated it. I kept going back to it and then it hit me - cotton candy! There's a new one called Conundrum that I might pick up too.

The berry bliss isn't like eating a cup of fresh berries, that's for sure. But it is light and crisp with a good hit. It tastes like something, but I can't put my finger on it. Maybe some flavor of bubble gum. If I think of it, I'll update.

I think I have tried Malty, but it was back when I first started and had ****ty equipment. I may have to try it again if I don't have any left over.

[jpindacasa]

well ****,
I ordered the chrome because I thought it was available, and stainless was back ordered. I was wrong

I got an email from apollo telling me the stainless vtube, as well as the chrome are on back order until april 15th.

I called and the guy to see if I could get black/silver/anything. He said every single vtube is on back order until april 15th..

oh well, I just had them change it to a stainless since it's on back order no matter what

[Pavster]

Originally Posted by Ankimo

fml, none of the good juice shops ship intl

Try Rawr. They certainly ship to the UK. Antidote ftw.

[Bode-ist]

Originally Posted by Pavster

Try Rawr. They certainly ship to the UK. Antidote ftw.

just ordered 30ml of that yesterday along with some truth serum. they have both a raspberry and a peach flavored truth serum coming out at the end of the month among a few others that i am excited to try out.

[Pavster]

Cheers. Didn't know that.

Just got my first mentholated Truth Serum today (TS is a pear cream). Really shouldn't work but does.

The menthol (I got cool) freshens up your mouth a treat. I've often found I lose fruity flavours after a few vapes.

[Bode-ist]

TS has been my go to for a while and after trying antidote last order, i will have both in the rotation for the foreseeable future.

[entertainme]

Originally Posted by jpindacasa

well ****,
I ordered the chrome because I thought it was available, and stainless was back ordered. I was wrong

I got an email from apollo telling me the stainless vtube, as well as the chrome are on back order until april 15th.

I called and the guy to see if I could get black/silver/anything. He said every single vtube is on back order until april 15th..

oh well, I just had them change it to a stainless since it's on back order no matter what

Bummer. I only knew the stainless and chrome weren't yet available. There are certainly other suppliers, but Apollo and Volcano are the only two I'm aware of with a year warranty.

[villagio]

"Interesting" report by the BMA (British medical association) on e-cigs:

PDF link: http://www.bma.org.uk/images/ecigare...m41-212278.pdf

"Summary
• E-cigarettes are not regulated as a tobacco product or as a medicine in the UK and there is no peerreviewed evidence that they are a safe and effective nicotine replacement therapy
• The use of e-cigarettes may undermine smoking prevention and cessation by reinforcing the normalcy of cigarette use in public and workplaces
• Health professionals should not recommend the use of e-cigarettes as smoking cessation aid or a lower risk option than continuing to smoke due to a lack of evidence of their safety and efficacy"



Also, South Africa just banned the sale of e-cigs. Going to be by (expensive) prescription only apparently, and that's only after they've tested them for 2 years...

[Pavster]

Yeah, that's not looking good. We's gonna get banned next year imo.

WTF is the e-cigs in the workplace section doing in there? Seemed like an excuse to get a few Mrs Lovejoy moments in there.

Also, in the section on second hand vapour - "...produce emissions that can be seen and smelled, and presumably contain nicotine, carcinogens and other substances. "

Presumably? Other substances? Really?

[Ankimo]

Why is it getting so much negative rap from governments? I wonder if it's due to lobbying from the tobacco companies.

[entertainme]

It the pharmaceuticals behind the anti-smoking funding, and your taxes:

But in reality the funding comes from the state, from 'charities' and from the pharmaceutical industry. And these sources of funding are so closely intertwined that sometimes it is difficult to see where one ends and another begins. The pharmaceutical industry funds the charities. The charities are often set up and financed by the government. The government is then lobbied by the charities.

The problem comes when you don't have any choice in whether you give to the charity because you are forced to fund it through your taxes. The problem comes when you arrive�in the bizarre situation of having government-funded charities using tax money to lobby for something�the government has already decided it wants to do. And the problem comes when the makers of pharmaceutical nicotine products are giving millions of dollars to groups whose primary aim is to put the makers of traditional nicotine products out of business.

In 1991, the US government approved the sale of nicotine patches on prescription and it was in that year that the Johnson foundation began funding anti-smoking projects. Since then it has given $450 million to anti-smoking projects including $84 million to the Centre for Tobacco-Free Kids, $10 million towards a campaign to raise the price of cigarettes and $99 million to the Smokeless States initiative.

The only other suppliers of so-called "nicotine replacement drugs", are Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline. While the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation's activities are largely confined to the United States, Glaxo and Pfizer are more focused on making tobacco control a truly international affair. By the end of the 1990s, both Glaxo and Pfizer were fully paid-up members of the World Health Organisation's Tobacco Free Initiative. The two companies helped finance the Smokefree Europe conference and they part-funded the Institute for Global Tobacco Control. In the UK, they fund the Roy Castle Foundation. When the 11th World Conference on Tobacco came to Chicago in 2000, the Johnson foundation paid $4 million to be one of the hosts and Glaxo was a patron of the event. The Pfizer foundation has recently donated $33 million to an assortment of anti-smoking groups including the newly formed ASH International.

It goes on and on, and it doesn't take a genius to work out what their motivation is for this extraordinary generosity. Already by 1999, Nicorette and Nicoderm were selling to the tune of $570 million a year. By 2007, Chantix alone was making $883 million. These sums, enormous though they are, will seem like peanuts if the rest of the world brings in the kind of anti-smoking policies seen in America and Europe.

In 2005, the flagship Tobacco Control journal published an article called "Toward a comprehensive long term nicotine policy". This was a rare example of the movement spelling out its ultimate goal. In the short term, the authors said,

"The immediate need is to capture all nicotine into a regulatory system."

[jpindacasa]

Originally Posted by entertainme

Bummer. I only knew the stainless and chrome weren't yet available. There are certainly other suppliers, but Apollo and Volcano are the only two I'm aware of with a year warranty.

i changed my order around a little yesterday, gonna get a mini to hold me over until the stainless regular size vtube comes out. the sales rep was very helpful.