Two Plus Two Poker Forums

Two Plus Two Poker Forums (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/)
-   Other Other Topics (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34/other-other-topics/)
-   -   Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34/other-other-topics/double-blind-vodka-taste-test-446516/)

MrWookie 03-28-2009 02:37 PM

Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
I've wanted to do this properly for some time now: get a bunch of friends together, get several vodkas, and try them all blind to identify the true winners and losers w/o any associations due to labels. MicroBob said he might do a miniature version of this with his gf, who allegedly hates Smirnoff and loves Grey Goose, but he never delivered. Time to settle this once and for all.

I had seven friends over last night of various levels of drinking experience and love of vodka. Admittedly, we didn't have anyone who was a vodka connoisseur/snob/lover. It was mostly people who wouldn't ever drink vodka straight except in the name of science, even if they loved it in mixed drinks, and people like me, who aren't opposed to drinking vodka straight, but wonder why you'd ever bother when there are things like whiskey in the world. To ensure maximum objectivity, I did take some awkward measures, but this is serious science. Before everyone arrived, I had all the vodka poured into identical glasses with a letter in front of them to keep them straight in the kitchen. When we'd taste one, one person would go from the living room and pour the vodka from the glass into my decanter, writing down the letter chosen w/o telling me, and then we'd pass the decanter and try a small portion. Thus, no one knew which vodka we were drinking, and no one but me knew even the set of seven vodkas that were being served. All vodkas were served at room temperature, since chilling could mask the differences between them.

The vodkas:

Contestant #1:

http://realestatemiami.files.wordpre...grey-goose.jpg

Grey Goose
Country of origin: France
Plant of origin: wheat
Price for a liter: $36

Gotta have this in the mix. Most people think Grey Goose is either God's gift to vodka or overrated plonk that succeeds due to marketing. Time to cut through both undeserved hate and love that are based solely on its name.

Contestant #2:

http://www.landor.com/images/auto/smirnoff_red.jpg

Smirnoff
Country of origin: originally Russia, but now owned by a British megacorp
Plant of origin: unknown, presumably grain?
Price for a liter: $15

Another obligatory include. Smirnoff is so big that leaving this out would be criminal, plus it was involved in the MB/gf debate. It also famously won the New York Times blind taste test, so it seems especially fitting to include it in our own.

Contestant the third:

http://www.traversetheater.org/images/rain-vodka.gif

Rain
Country of origin: USA
Plant of origin: organic corn
Price for a liter: $24

I was turned onto this when MrMon posted a link to an article detailing great value picks in spirits a while back. That article turned me onto W. L. Weller bourbon, The Dalmore Cigar Malt Scotch, and the Bowmore Darkest Sherry Cask Scotch, all three of which are excellent and indeed good values. I figured this would be a good one to put up against Grey Goose and see if it can take the top spot.

Contestant #4:

http://www.beveragewarehouse.com/ima...ducts/5359.jpg

Fris
Country of origin: Denmark
Plant of origin: wheat
Price for a liter: $13

I've pimped Fris for a while now as a good value pick in vodka. I did go into this hoping I wouldn't own myself should everyone hate it.

Contestant #5

http://sparadvertising.com/img/packaging/nikolai.png

Nikolai
Country of origin: USA
Plant of origin: unspecified grain
Price for a liter: $7.50

This was selected as the least shady-looking vodka on the bottom shelf for less than $8. Will people be able to spot the swill?

Contestant #6

http://www.klwines.com/images/skus/998083x.jpg

Hangar One
Country of origin: USA
Plant of origin: grapes
Price for a 750 mL bottle: $34 ($45.33/L, it's not sold in any size other than 750 mL).

This is the most expensive vodka of the test, and one of the most expensive on the market. I selected it because I was curious if using grapes could make a difference and because their raspberry vodka is objectively awesome: they actually infuse it with real raspberries rather than artificial flavoring. We'll see how their base spirit stacks up.

Contestant #7:

http://www.beveragewarehouse.com/ima...ducts/2289.jpg

Country of origin: Austria
Plant of origin: potatoes
Price for a liter: $14

Should have a potato vodka in there, and while Chopin might have been nice to try, we needed some more mid grade vodkas rather than breaking the bank with all top shelf stuff.

So, how did they all actually fare without labels and marketing to guide our taste buds?

The big winner, chosen as the favorite by 4 of us, second favorite by two, and third by one was...

Spoiler:
Smirnoff


In second place, selected as the favorite by one person, second or third favorite by five, and ranked dead last by one, was:

Spoiler:
Monopolowa


In third place, selected as the favorite by two people, second by one, but that the rest didn't really enjoy was:

Spoiler:
Hangar One


Fourth place was a tie. People ranked both these vodkas anywhere from 2nd to 6th:

Spoiler:
Fris and Nikolai


In 6th place, ranked dead last by four people, but middle of the road by the remaining 3, was:

Spoiler:
Grey Goose


And finally, the consensus was that the most disgusting vodka was:

Spoiler:
Rain


Pretty much everyone had reason to be shocked by the results, mostly by us repeating the results of the NYT test. However, seeing Rain down at the bottom shocked me the most. At first, we thought we might have ranked it so low because it was the first vodka we tried before we were used to vodka. We decided to pass it around again and see if it tasted smoother, but no. It was indeed just as bad as we thought it was. It was fun to see Grey Goose down towards the bottom, but I didn't think it'd be that low. I figured that in this pool, it'd finish 4th or 5th, but no, without the label, most people hated it.

I did do a quick test of the vodkas mixed, but it wasn't the most objective. I made cosmos with Smirnoff, Nikolai, and Rain and asked people to pick their favorite. People didn't really have a favorite based on vodka quality. It was more slight variations in the proportions that dominated the difference (I was pretty well toasted at this point, so was everyone else). It's likely that differences in quality between vodkas is negligible when mixed, but our results are inconclusive.

The rankings aren't as distinct they seem to be here: it was more like 3 tiers than a quality continuum. Most people agreed that the top 3 were pretty close in quality, then the two 4th place vodkas were a noticeable step down but again comparable, and then the bottom two were again comparable. Ultimately, the only vodkas that the seven of us would consider buying again were Smirnoff, Monopolowa, and Nikolai, which is cheap enough to merit consideration even if it's not the favorite.

P Chippa 03-28-2009 02:43 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
So how do you feel?

MrWookie 03-28-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
I'm fine, actually. One girl was wrecked, but most of us paced ourselves adequately.

1C5 03-28-2009 02:47 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
"It also famously won the New York Times blind taste test" and it won your test also!!! What made it the winner in both tests??? amazing!!!

MrWookie 03-28-2009 02:49 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Mostly, it had the least amount of rubbing alcohol flavor, but the top three vodkas all shared a light sour character that most people liked.

theDireWolf 03-28-2009 02:49 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
that's why i've always stuck with smirnoff, such a good deal (i'd never drink it straight though)

deleted23567 03-28-2009 02:51 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
dude ! how can you have a real taste test without Absolut? :)

string_bean00 03-28-2009 02:56 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
i drank a lot of Nikolai in college

Peter Harris 03-28-2009 03:00 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Wook,

we have to meet.

Bring vodka.

Dr. Robinson 03-28-2009 03:04 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Great study...I would have liked to see Stoli in there though.

Peter Harris 03-28-2009 03:06 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Robinson (Post 9635513)
Great study...I would have liked to see Stoli in there though.

Yeah, I think Stoli and Absolut are also a little trumped up. Would have been good - but i suppose it's all about not getting so bladdered you lose the tiny thread of objectivity.

bratwurst 03-28-2009 03:08 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
I don't know if I'd even be able to tell a difference between any of them.

I usually drink Ketel1 or Stoli when using Vodka, and never drink it straight. So I'm probably wasting money.

The 13th 4postle 03-28-2009 03:11 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Awesome.

.Alex. 03-28-2009 03:13 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Would have liked to see some more popular brands like Skyy, Stoli, Absolut, and Ketel One, but I guess you can only drink so much vodka before the exercise becomes pointless. Interesting results.

liquidboss 03-28-2009 03:15 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
This kind of stuff usually cracks me up. I'm glad you and your friends aren't "vodka snobs" but it is funny when you get someone who only drinks Grey Goose or something and they find out it is their least favorite when in a blind test.

It's also interesting that Smirnoff is usually pretty high in these taste tests but almost always loses out to Ketel One, Grey Goose, and the like with the snobs.

lippy 03-28-2009 03:18 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
I've never had a Smirnoff martini, but I can't imagine it'd be as good as a stoli (which I claim as my favorite vodka, though I haven't done anything this fantastically scientific).

I'm pretty sure that if Karkov was in a test like this, I would immediately recognize it and have to stop myself from vomiting.

john voight 03-28-2009 03:19 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
I think dateline or 20/20 did same type of test a year ago or something.
I remember costco's Kirkland beat them all; kettle one, greygoose, etc....

I wanna do a test. Mainly b/c i always think stoli is my favroite, but who knows?????

I came to the conclusion a while ago that GG wasnt the bomb. Sick marketing though.

john voight 03-28-2009 03:21 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lippy (Post 9635760)
I've never had a Smirnoff martini, but I can't imagine it'd be as good as a stoli (which I claim as my favorite vodka, though I haven't done anything this fantastically scientific).

I'm pretty sure that if Karkov was in a test like this, I would immediately recognize it and have to stop myself from vomiting.

+1 on stoli.
I think i might like it just b/c im russian.

Im gunna have to do a stoli vs smirnoff test though. Mainly b/c those are the main big name bottles in my price range along w/ absolute.

LFS 03-28-2009 03:22 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
I am very pleased to see that my man Monopolowa was included and fared so well. Great value. I'm also told that potato vodka is best for infusing, so it's the clear choice if you're ever making flavored vodka.

otnemem 03-28-2009 03:29 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Great study and TR. But yeah, I might have thrown Stoli and Absolut in there as they are a bit more popular than Fris or Rain.

Dr. Robinson 03-28-2009 03:35 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
I have heard that Kirkland Vodka is Grey Goose.

J.A.Sucker 03-28-2009 03:36 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
a bunch of Russians and I did one of these recently. Grey goose was everyone's least favorite. Smirnov was universally the best. Second place was a bottle smuggled in from Moscow. Third was stoli. Ketel absolut and one other were about even. Two take home messages from our experiment: all were drinkable except the goose, which tasted like varnish; we were shocked that smirnov was the unanimous fav-it and the bootleg Russian one were a notch better than the others.

Anzat 03-28-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Wow way to leave out all of the best vodkas.

Dr. Robinson 03-28-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
According to Tom Clancy's Cardinal & the Kremlin, real Russians only drink Stoli.

kkcountry 03-28-2009 03:40 PM

Re: Double-Blind Vodka Taste Test
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Feliz Slim (Post 9635821)
I am very pleased to see that my man Monopolowa was included and fared so well. Great value. I'm also told that potato vodka is best for infusing, so it's the clear choice if you're ever making flavored vodka.

i'll have to try monopolowa, but it'll have to be pretty damn good to unseat Luksusowa http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/988...tle9092924.jpg as my top potato (and one of my top overall) vodka

anybody had both of these?


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:26 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Copyright © 2008-2020, Two Plus Two Interactive