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JayTeeMe 08-24-2010 04:44 PM

Re: Dispute over family chess set - need OOT Input
 
give 7k to dad for chess set?

ETA: the board is awesome but the pieces are way ugly

the_scalp 08-24-2010 04:45 PM

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Your Dad is graciously willing to give up chess set provided he is given one of aunt's first two picks in return (plus cash offset for depreciation on compensatory item).

Amid Cent 08-24-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by goofball (Post 21116413)
play for it obviously

Funny you should say this....when my dad originally picked it, Richard sent him an email asking if he'd play him for it. My dad ignored the email, which was probably smart cuz Richard would have owned him.

the_scalp 08-24-2010 04:47 PM

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Curious if your remember what the first 5 or so picks were.

wiper 08-24-2010 04:49 PM

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how quickly does the chess set end up on ebay if you were to give it to richard?

wiper 08-24-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the_scalp (Post 21117049)
Curious if your remember what the first 5 or so picks were.

good question.

JJSCOTT2 08-24-2010 04:50 PM

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Your dad is probably a douche but it's within his rights to do whatever the **** he wants with it. But let's say that it's worth $7k. I think a nice gesture would be to offer to sell it to Richard for $4500 and let him decide if it's still worth it.

knotfan1234 08-24-2010 04:53 PM

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they should play chess then winner gets it imo

O Fenômeno 08-24-2010 04:55 PM

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have dad put chess set up on ebay? richard can buy if he wants

Amid Cent 08-24-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wiper (Post 21115987)
so basically, it isn't about the sentimental value of the chess set (because well, IT ISN'T EVEN THE SAME ONE), it's about the $7k.

tell 'em **** off, they had their chance in the fantasy draft and passed. twice.


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Originally Posted by LFS (Post 21116022)
Richard gets dick. The trust owes him nothing.


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Originally Posted by Parlay Slow (Post 21116384)
If ~$7000 is spent on an additional chess set then everyone involved deserves a kick in the nuts.

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Originally Posted by gumpzilla (Post 21116402)
Not sure who is technically in the right here, though it sounds like your dad is probably being a bit of a dick.


More importantly, **** $5k chess sets.

Yup, being a big dick.

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Originally Posted by vikefan24 (Post 21116596)
The document isn't signed and wasn't in the trust.. Chess set belongs to your dad 100%.. EZ PZ

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Originally Posted by prohornblower (Post 21116923)
As executor of the trust this should be easy for you.

The document was not an instrument of the trust, therefore it holds no water.

Hell for all we know it's a forged document. I can see why your dad hates his sister.


Agreed strongly with all of this.

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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe (Post 21116977)

ETA: the board is awesome but the pieces are way ugly

QFT. Was impossible to play chess with those pieces as a kid.

gumpzilla 08-24-2010 04:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTeeMe (Post 21116977)
ETA: the board is awesome but the pieces are way ugly

This is the problem with most fancy chess sets.

The whole thing seems tricky to me. It seems like there is some chance they were hoping to exploit the "sort of assumed" status of the chess set by letting it fall a little bit while picking more valuable things. While it's obviously not cool to let yourself get freerolled like that, it seems like taking the chess set early under those circumstances is also being kind of a dick, and that some sort of arrangement agreeable to all parties here could probably be reached.

I find the prospect of clawing with my siblings for the leavings of my dead parents to be incredibly distasteful and can't really imagine putting up this type of fight for stuff.

EDIT: Also, LOL that Richard apparently actually offered to play for it.

Amid Cent 08-24-2010 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by the_scalp (Post 21117049)
Curious if your remember what the first 5 or so picks were.

It was mostly boring crap. I think it went like this...

1) China (plates and bowls)
2) Silverware (real silver)
3) Antique cabinet
4) Chess Set
5) Painting (not worth much)
6) Porcelin figurines
7) Coffee table
8) Antique record player (the coolest item of the bunch IMO)

LFS 08-24-2010 05:08 PM

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I do not agree that OP's Dad is being a dick. Even if he's keeping the set purely out of spite he could very well have his reasons, especially since it sounds like the relations are pieces of work.

Etats360 08-24-2010 05:11 PM

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Dad gives up the chess set in return for a 1st round pick and future considerations

captZEEbo 08-24-2010 05:14 PM

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This has probably all already been said 10 times but just want to make sure the dad doesn't lose the chess set for nothing :) The ONLY way he should give it up is cash value of it or he gets item of his choosing from the draft, but doing either is just to be nice as he doesn't have to. To just straight up give it based on a random letter is pretty dumb. This is all assuming they all hate eachother. Also people calling your dad a dick over this is sort of lame...there's obviously more to the story in all this. It's a dick move as an isolated incident, but given the way you've shown the sister to act and the general animosity of everyone, it's probably pretty reasonable behavior. No way I'm making a 5k sacrifice for someone I don't even like.

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Originally Posted by gumpzilla (Post 21117244)
Also, LOL that Richard apparently actually offered to play for it.

+1000
Hey, I know we hate eachother and I'm a chess pro, but how about you give me a 5k chess freeroll for funsies?

dkgojackets 08-24-2010 05:17 PM

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the fact that there was nothing said at the time he drafted the set means your dad has every right to tell everyone to **** off. they cant just ask for **** two years later with a note that was probably written by the aunt anyway.

gumpzilla 08-24-2010 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LFS (Post 21117552)
I do not agree that OP's Dad is being a dick. Even if he's keeping the set purely out of spite

http://i37.tinypic.com/29waczk.gif

Even if he has reasons, it doesn't mean he's not being a dick. EDIT: To clarify, from what OP has said of the situation, I think he was probably being more of a dick at the time of the choosing than now, 2 years later.

prohornblower 08-24-2010 05:22 PM

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Deliver chess set to aunt by dropping it from an 8 story building onto her head.

TomCollins 08-24-2010 05:30 PM

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I also agree note was likely forged. Tough titties. Dad may be a dick, but may well be justified in it. The replacement part is even more LOLs. Stick to your guns, not like they will do anything, and the relationships are already trashed, so might as well not give in to her crap.

LirvA 08-24-2010 05:32 PM

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Just tell Niles to get his own.

BartJ385 08-24-2010 05:34 PM

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Both Richard and your dad have to agree to meet and talk this through. Betty is not allowed to take part. If either your dad or Richard refuse to meet, they forfeit their claim to the chess set. If both refuse to meet, the chess set will be sold and the money given to charity.

This is not about the money or the sentimental value or anything, it is about who is right or wrong vs keeping the family together.

Make them talk, or you will regret it later.

BigBiceps 08-24-2010 05:36 PM

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If Betty will have sex with your Dad then give the set to Richard.

daryn 08-24-2010 05:38 PM

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perfect

DMC0627 08-24-2010 05:39 PM

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I also wonder about the legitimacy of the letter "found" after 2 years. It belongs to your father and if he doesn't want to give it up it is his right.

Amid Cent 08-24-2010 05:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BartJ385 (Post 21118174)
This is not about the money or the sentimental value or anything, it is about who is right or wrong vs keeping the family together.

Make them talk, or you will regret it later.

I've regretted having to deal with that side of the family for the last two years. I was actually happy that we were close to being done with the Trust completely, then this mess comes up.

And zero chance of keeping the family together. Relationships were bad before my grandparents passed away, and things like this have made it much worse since then. If I never have to see or speak to any of them again, that would be just fine by me.


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