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One would hope this is true. Id double check personally if i were OP though.

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check the chess forum

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pics of chess set?????????????????????????????????

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No worries, niss. I didn't find it obnoxious. You raised a good point.
Thanks. Well, I did take some law when I was at university a generation ago, but that was on the side. My major was CS. I suppose I do have a didactic style. I'm not in publishing and I don't work for a law firm. One of my current activities does require me to take a fair amount of legal advice, (In soviet DoTheMathistan lawyers work for me?), and gives me substantial exposure to legislation.

Mostly, my contribution ITT is based on my personal experience of having served multiple times in situations similar to the one Amid Cent finds himself in.

As to the length and detail of my post, if brevity is the soul of wit, I must be a witless wonder. When talking about legal matters, I prefer to be thorough, precise and to cover my ass. Must be all the exposure I've had to lawyers.

Mandatory closing lawyer joke:
A distinguished looking gentleman walks into a rural bar. He's wearing a very expensive, conservatively cut suit. In one hand he carries a large leather briefcase. In the other hand is a heavy chain, the far end of which is attached to a 16 foot alligator. He walks up to the bartender and asks "Do you serve lawyers here?" "Y-y-yes sir, we do sir" is the reply. "Fine" says the man, "I'll have a beer, and the 'gator will have a lawyer."

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hell yeah it is.

sounds good.

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MOAR.jpg

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What does the trust say about trustee fees?

In California, if the trust is silent to as to fees then you are usually entitled to a "reasonable fee." 1% is usually held to be reasonable. Or the trust may say how much you get. I'd check this out asap.

If you have not been paid, and $8k will not cover the fees, it will be awesome to tell them how they need to put money back in the trust to pay you.

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Also, you need to close this trust out asap and be done with your duty. It's been two years, all expenses and taxes should be paid up.

Wrap it up.

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I tried searching for the text in her emails, no dice

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Ebay the chess set. Your dad needs to sell it ASAP while he still owns it, then link Betty/Richard to the completed auction. Let them deal with the new owners!

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Then link OOT to the auction and we can inflate the price for you to see how much Betty/Richard really want this set. Obviously if OOT wins then you don't sell it, but Betty/Richard think it's gone and hopefully won't bother you about it and if they win then they will be paying way more than it's worth.

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that's gold. collusion on an ebay auction.

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this is so tilting. does she really think the point of such a draft is for certain parties to sandbag and handicap themselves?

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Today's update - kind of slow

I got this email from Richard yesterday.

So you have no intention of carrying out the letter of the will of the trust per Betty's immediately prior email.

In particular it appears that you were mistaken in distributing assets on the basis of some unsiged and undated pieces of paper.

Are you not going to fix this error?


Clearly, Richard is trying to get me to admit to something that I may or may not do in relation to the Trust, probably to use as ammunition against me later if it ever gets that far. It's pretty sleazy, and I would think that he knows by now I'm not going to step into that trap.

Speaking of sleazy, I decided to look up the attorney who Richard has been cc'ing in all his emails. I found this information on a website that allows you "rate" lawyers, 1-5 stars. Let's call the lawyer "Clive".

Comments are as posted, only "Clive's" name has changed.

* Bummer I cannot offer O stars, Clive doesn't deserve a single one since he turned my life into hell while I had to deal with him... Clive is a joke! He has no idea what he is doing and is ridiculously overpriced. I spent many thousands for him to draft an agreement which turned out to be a total rubbish while suffering many nervous breakdowns since nothings seemed to be done properly. I would vote him to be the worst lawyer of the century!

* Not clear with strategy. Very vague and incompetant. Lacks integrity. This attorney will lie to you about anything! As long as he get's your money. He has been an attorney for years, and still does not know the law!

* After I handed him my retainer fee, he became hard to contact. I called his office. His assistant said that he was on vacation, when I asked for his email address fro his assistant, his assistant does not have it. Then I realized that that was a call service, the law frim turne out to be a shaddy one man operation. I wished I learnt about this before he cashed my retainer.

All three reviewers gave Clive 1 star out of 5 in every category. All of a sudden, I'm not too worried about Richard's lawyer coming after me.

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WTF does this even mean?!??!?!

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"Dick, It is my belief and understanding that I have already carried out the will of the trust, along with Betty, two years ago.

It does not appear that I was mistaken in the manner of distribution of assets.

There is no apparent error to fix at this time. The remaining duties for myself are as custodian of the trust, to cause remaining taxes to be paid from the trust.

Also, eat a bag of dicks

Yours,
Amid"

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Amid, Operation Ignore Those Idiots should now be in full effect.

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At the very least you shouldn't have any further correspondence without the letter being produced.

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This is the part that frustrates me the most. We have one outstanding bill (a stupid property value reassessment) that I am supposed to get this week. Then I would have been done with the Crazy Family forever. Now it looks like I'm sucked in for the long haul.

Worked so far, no new emails today. Good for me, bad for the thread.

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I love how your cousins are now legal experts. "Letter of the will of the trust?" Lol at these idiots.

You and dad should take the chess set to various places like the park, museum, etc, to play, then take pictures and put them on facebook.

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Better yet, make the chess set its own facebook account and friend betty and dick

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Lots of potential there, especially if the Chess Set keeps Poking Richard and sending PM's talking about how it misses Richard's caress..

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I'd be more worried.

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Damn it to hell! Spoke too soon.

Amid:

I haven't heard from you on this matter, I want to be completely clear.

It is your duty as a trustee of the trust to carry out the trust document to the letter, you've failed to do this in a way that appears to have both harmed me personally and has the appearance of self-dealing. Beth has agreed to fix this which is proper and fair and we await your response in this matter.

A trust has a right and duty to collect incorrectly distributed assets of which there appears to have been much.

Failure to do this is unfair not only to me but to all concerned.

If you will not act quickly on this matter, you will have breached your duty as a trustee.

Will you do your duty as a trustee or not?

I demand that you immediately seek remedy to return assets to the trust that were either taken or given improperly by the trust or trustees or beneficiaries.

Richard Blabla