CharlieKelly,

You should do what you have already decided to do before asking for confirmation here. I mean for advice. "But we haven't decided yet we are really torn on what to do" haha

My job involves reading large amounts of words and reading between the lines

Get some more girls in your bubble.

Partial Grunch: Why the hell does OP care so much?

You sound like a terrible friend who enables awful behaviour to spice up your own life.
In no way does Chris have a claim here.

He never said he was torn down the middle.

Uhhhh, he's a good friend and I care about his well being.

Telling him is just hurting him. I don't see how that is compatible with caring about him.

Julie is never going to get into a relationship with him.

I will preface with a disclaimer that I really have no understanding of the "group-friends" dynamics you people seem to find natural. I'm just going to use my idea of rational behavior. Cliffs; it's really none of your business, you shouldn't say anything, and you really shouldn't have even made the snarky comment at breakfast. Plausible deniability, you fool!

Are you sure Ryan is Chris's best friend? Well, maybe he didn't "try" anything after that. Maybe she approached him after that and said, let's hook up tonight in the living-room. Further, maybe he said, "But what about Chris..." and she said, "What about Chris?".

Surely the bro-code has limits.

But, further, WTF is up with that strange emo display overall? There is a point where disengenuous behaviour must be considered not only allowable but downright essential and expected. What is Ryan supposed to do there, other than allay Chris's concerns? Shout out, "YOU'VE MISSED YOUR CHANCE, AND TONIGHT I WILL HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN!!!"?

I don't think that's the only reason you want to tell him at all. I think you're like a little old lady at a sewing circle who has some juicy gossip she can't bring herself to hold in. Evidence; snarky comment to Julie at breakfast.

Lol at the doesn't have the best morals line. "I made you dinners, bitch, you OWE me your sexual abstenance!"

Oh, so it's all about you, eh?

This is possibly the most awkward sounding thing I've heard all year. For a variety of reasons.

Here's a suggested conversation-starter:

"Hey Chris, that was a nasty scene between you and Ryan over Julie last night. Had you ever told her you're interested?"

Ugh CharlieKelly sounds even more immature and helpless than his gay friend. Stop asking for advice if you think your exact situation is some unique snowflake that nobody understands. You're a group of toddlers.

This kind of nonsense makes sense at 16 but not 27. I fear for our future if this is what the youth of America is like.

It's an expression. It means that this same story and scenario has played out over and over all over.

Doesn't change much. Ryan's betrayal of Chris' wishes and intents is between Ryan and Chris. Ryan didn't do anything to jeopardize his friendship with you or anyone else. This is Chris' fight.

This is why you have to start talking to him and suggest that he should probably consider other options, and that Julie may not be the right girl for a relationship with him.

Indeed, I do know what it's like to have friends that you trust and treat like your family. If you want to think of Chris like that, or if he actually is like that, then pretend that this is like having your kid brother who needs to stand up to the bully in the playground. You can't exactly walk in there and beat the crap out of the bully in school yourself, but you can teach your brother to defend himself.

Telling him serves no purpose. If you want to protect your friend you should be talking to Julie. Explain that your friend is emotionally underdeveloped and that she needs to take that into consideration and stop going on these pretend dates. Basically she has to tell him she is not interested.

Telling him about his friend having sex with her advances nothing and only damages him.

I think if you don't want to tell him that Ryan ****ed her you should try to persuade him to stop dating this girl because she isn't good for him,they had several dates already and if she liked him she wouldn't have ****ed Ryan.
If persuading doesn't work then tell him she ****ed Ryan after wedding,or tell him she ****ed someone but you don't know who she ****ed(but he will probably figure out it was Ryan).

If you were Chris and Chris were you would you want him to tell you what happened?That is probably the answer.

It's not the best idea as of now. The best idea as of now, and as of any point in the future, is to stay out of it. Because this x1,000,000:

And the fact that you're putting so much analysis in this as to determine whether your friend has a shot with a girl is starting to sound really creepy. You're making decisions on your friend's behalf based on information that should be very private to your friend. Just stop. Get on with your own life.

grunching second page.

dont rat out your friend. seriously, dont be that guy. if your conscience cant handle keeping quiet, just tell chris that julie sleeps around, even while he was "courting" her. if he wants to continue pursuing her, let him. he could use the experience. and if hes pretty disappointed, just explain how he now has a great opportunity to take a completely different approach with this girl since he literally has nothing to lose. he would get some good practice, and theres a slight possibly he actually gets laid.

personally id ask ryan about it. id be interested in hearing his thoughts after his apparently staged apology.