Originally Posted by NeverTheWorst

So much classic OOT rediculousness in this thread. OMG Ryan scored!!! Way to go Ryan!! Talk about arrested development, holy **** hahaha.

Originally Posted by forthwrite

He's a marketer, not a relationship expert. His real name is Eben Pagan.

This is one of his sites: http://www.getaltitude.com/

Originally Posted by Your Boss

Yes, I think she did something wrong here. Assuming she values Chris as a person/friend, randomly f-ing his best friend on a one nighter certainly exhibits some negative traits about her loyalty and compassion as a person. I would feel that way (although way less so) even if sometime over the last 6 months she told Chris "sorry, you and I aren't happening", so the fact that she is leading him on to some degree makes it way way worse.

Please note that I don't think her dating/sleeping with dudes is an issue. If this was a random it's a complete non-issue. The fact that it's the dudes best friend is what I'm keying off of.

OP, I assume Julie was aware of the confrontation/crying apology/etc?

And for the record, I think Ryan acted way more inappropriately than Julie did. Nailing the object of affection of your socially inept best friend who has come to you many times for advice about this specific girl is a huge douche move.

Originally Posted by ctyri

One could even more easily say Chris is the huge douche here by attempting to block his own best friend from scoring with a girl while he's in town, all because he called dibs first, even though he won't make any effort to cash in.

I mean, read the OP itself. Chris is the one imposing on his friend and making him grovel in shame because he had the audacity to kiss a girl after he himself passed on the opportunity.

Originally Posted by ctyri

Chris sounds like a little bitch with girls, but an even bigger little bitch with his adult male friends.

I'll remind you: this isn't a group of 16 year olds. These are men approaching 30. Chris was alone with the girl several times drunk at a wedding. A girl he has "dated" in the past, yet has still never even kissed. If he wasn't going to make a move that night, then when? Why should his buddy ignore a woman into him at a wedding, just because his friend told him he likes her too? What squatters rights does Chris have to tell anybody hands off?

Originally Posted by ctyri

Ryan doesn't need friends like Chris and Charlie. He should be beyond hanging with high schoolers.

Originally Posted by Henry17

So you think Chris would not be hurt if she banged someone from the bride's side? We both know that is not true.

Originally Posted by CharlieKelly

The weird thing is, I still get the feeling that Chris views Julie as an alright girl and relationship worthy.

Originally Posted by TomCollins

I guess it's more true that no one should be good friends with this immature of a guy, so you might be accidentally correct.

Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle

wat

so... if one of your (presumably childhood) friends is a virgin... you...

Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle

lololol, if it gets in the way of what? slaying random trashy 26 year old mom?

Originally Posted by TomCollins

It's hard for two people who are on completely different maturity levels to be friends. What do you have in common with 13 year olds? I'm not friends with any nor would I expect to be. When you have a friend who is still at the maturity level of a 13 year old, you gotta leave him behind, or he needs to grow up. Friends change as people change.

Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle

all we know about the dude is that he is a virgin who is into this girl (and likely gay). far from grounds to call him either a 13 year old or to suppose he's not worth having as a friend. we're on entirely different wavelengths here.