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02-16-2016 , 11:24 AM

#5101

nuggetz87

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Nice work UMterp. That cocktail intrigues me - I'll need to try something with bourbon + sugar + apple cider vinegar.

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02-16-2016 , 11:35 AM

#5102

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whats the problem chief?

chicken is delicious

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02-16-2016 , 11:40 AM

#5103

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chicken is delicious

try eating 3 lbs of steamed chicken breast with only salt and pepper, no sauces, no skin, its awful

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02-16-2016 , 11:42 AM

#5104

skillgambler

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try not ruining your chicken? I sous vide abut 2 pounds of turkey breast per week and it's delicious without any sauce

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02-16-2016 , 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by skillgambler

try not ruining your chicken? I sous vide abut 2 pounds of turkey breast per week and it's delicious without any sauce

lol, I'll take all the help I can get so please pass along any tips you have for making lean protein taste good without frying, adding fat etc.

Outside of brining and grilling, I didn't have much luck. I sous vide chicken with fresh thyme, salt and pepper and still thought it was pretty blah

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02-16-2016 , 12:03 PM

#5106

JackInDaCrak

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Sous vide brined lean poultry at 60C is anything but blah

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02-16-2016 , 01:20 PM

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sylar

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I just buy pre seasoned turkey breast and put it into SV in the package. http://www.fosterfarms.com/fresh-tur...-breast-roast/

Macros are great. Thin slices improve any sandwich. Thicker slices can be warmed up for breakfast. Cut it up into cubes and add to any number of warm or cold salads. I've eaten it as is, or with a buffalo wing sauce, with tabasco, or plain old leftover gravy. My palate handles bland foods better than most people because I grew up with bland foods, but if you can't figure out how to stomach 100g of lean meat, you just aren't trying.

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02-16-2016 , 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sylar

100 grams is only approx 3.5 ounces, that's not a problem for me, its when I have to choke down 100 grams of protein which ends up being 25+ ounces of say chicken breasts without the skin

I think I just may have a personal issue with eating lots of lean protein. I did the Rapid Fat Loss diet a few years ago and was only eating about 1100 calories a day that consisted of only 10-15 grams of fat and unlimited green fibrous carbs. I think I had to consume around 230 grams of lean protein and to get the last 40 grams down, I about puked. I was stuffed on only 1100 calories a day.

YMMV

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02-16-2016 , 02:07 PM

#5109

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White meat is universally terrible and you're all clearly working for Big Poultry.

There, i said it.

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02-16-2016 , 02:07 PM

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Chicken breast has like 31g of protein per 100g of cooked chicken. That's like 11oz of chicken for 100g of protein. When I did a lean diet, I found that I could easily eat about 100g of chicken per sitting, and simply had to spread out the servings over the course of a day.

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02-16-2016 , 02:15 PM

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That's like 11oz of chicken for 100g of protein

don't think thats correct. IIRC, there are approx 4 grams of protein per ounce of chicken breast (source), so you'd have to eat 25 ounces of chicken to get 100g of protein

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02-16-2016 , 03:09 PM

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Yeah, different sources show different numbers. http://www.caloriecount.com/calories...reasts-i151287

I just googled 'chicken breast nutrition' and google gave me the 31g per 100g number. 4g per ounce is too low. I'd put it closer to 8g and some places probably optimistically put it at 10g.

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02-16-2016 , 04:06 PM

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well **** me, this just reminds me why I quit dieting and gave in to my inner fatass

hopefully your source is right, the less lean protein the better imo

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02-16-2016 , 04:07 PM

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Sous vide butter poached lobster, brussel sprouts, cauliflower mash

And butter from bag with lemon

What was your final cooking temp and method for butter poaching in the sous vide? Any tips?

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02-16-2016 , 04:17 PM

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I just boiled for 30s or so to get meat out more easily from shell, and put 4 tails in bag with a stick of butter I had cut into tbsps at 135 for 30 minutes. Used bag butter with a little lemon juice for dipping.

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02-16-2016 , 04:39 PM

#5116

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yim - any reason you cant cook the chicken breast in some olive oil on the stove? I do that a lot and only use ~1 tbsp for 3 large chicken breasts. the vast majority of the oil is left in the pan but it gives the chicken a decent crust and not the blandness of steaming.

obv grilling is best here. i can eat plain (well cooked) grilled chicken breast with s&p with no problem.

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02-16-2016 , 04:49 PM

#5117

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Thanks. This eliminates the most annoying step in butter poaching which is to make the butter emulsion, so I'm definitely trying this out next time I cook lobster.

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02-16-2016 , 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bode-ist

no, not at all. I just had the strict rules of the Rapid Fat loss diet in my mind where I only had a few grams of fat to eat per day.

I think its fairly conclusive that slow and steady wins the diet race but I have no self control and tend to have to resort to extremes

My point kind of went on a tangent, I was merely trying to point out the the guy that wanted to lose some weight to load up on lean protein to help him feel fuller on less calories, a little olive oil to cook with aint gonna be a deal killer

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02-16-2016 , 05:03 PM

#5119

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Originally Posted by yimyammer

try eating 3 lbs of steamed chicken breast with only salt and pepper, no sauces, no skin, its awful

margin for error a lot smaller with lean meat/fish. don't blame the food for your overcooking though ffs

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I just had the strict rules of the Rapid Fat loss diet in my mind where I only had a few grams of fat to eat per day.

low fat diets are stupid
everything under 50g makes no sense, everything under 30 is really unhealthy

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02-16-2016 , 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cashy

everything under 50g makes no sense, everything under 30 is really unhealthy

agreed, the diet I was referencing is short term and for people that desperately want to lose fat (not muscle and water) fast (weddings, reunions, etc). Even he recommends a slower, balanced approach.

I'm sure you've heard of Lyle McDonald and his Rapid Fat Loss Diet. I wasn't recommending that diet, just making the point that lean protein is lower in calorie and very filling which helps a person sustain a deficit in calories.

I don't see anything extreme or inaccurate about that claim so rather than wasting everyones time with your pointless gifs, why don't you enlighten them with your wisdom?

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02-16-2016 , 05:32 PM

#5121

cashy

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Originally Posted by yimyammer

even then low-carb much much better option for almost anyone bar the few gifted ones with good insulin sensitivity
plus low-fat doesn't mean no fat

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Originally Posted by yimyammer

I don't see anything extreme or inaccurate about that claim so rather than wasting everyones time with your pointless gifs, why don't you enlighten them with your wisdom?

what claim?
- lean meat is awful. wrong, overcooking makes lean meat awful.
-couldn't use fat because low-fat. wrong, you even HAVE to add fat more multiple reasons.

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02-16-2016 , 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cashy

- lean meat is awful. .

it is to me

you're just being an argumentative jackass

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02-16-2016 , 05:38 PM

#5123

cashy

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possible, some people have really ****ed taste buds from all the crap they eat.
more likely though that you just never had properly prepared lean meat yet.

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02-16-2016 , 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cashy

possible, some people have really ****ed taste buds from all the crap they eat.
more likely though that you just never had properly prepared lean meat yet.

afraid I'm guilty on all counts, despite my efforts to improve my cooking, I don't find myself gravitating to much protein unless its a juicy steak, fried chicken or bacon, of course

I've got a good pastrami and smoked turkey recipe I make and its good but for whatever reason I don't find myself dying to eat it and end up making other choices.

If only chips and queso were essential to building a lean physique, I'd be ripped

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02-16-2016 , 06:00 PM

#5125

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Cashy, you're being pretty stubborn about something that is completely subjective. I've eaten pretty clean for 5+ years now and have had tons of properly prepared lean meat, I still think it sucks.

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