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Wasn't Michael Jackson found innocent of all the molestation charges?

IIRC, there were numerous kids (and their families) involved and they were all discredited.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_ch...ichael_Jackson

Bizarre read. My take is the original kid was molested by his own father.

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11-22-2014 , 01:38 AM

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If Bill Cosby was white you think he'd get the "we love you Bill!" treatment? That's an...interesting perspective. Jian Ghomeshi (most Americans don't know him, but hes apparently beloved in Canada) just lost his job and became a social pariah because of similar accusations.

He was accused of assault by some.

For clarification purposes, the Jian Ghomeshi allegations are NOT the same as the Cosby ones. None of them involved drugs or rape. They involved violence during sex and whether or not it was consensual. He claimed it was "BDSM" and they knew he was into it, they claim he beat the **** out of them without warning. Not the same thing.

For additional clarification, Jian Ghomeshi, while certainly not black, is also not white. So race wise I have no idea what the point of mentioning him was.

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11-22-2014 , 03:41 AM

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The writing was on the wall

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11-22-2014 , 03:44 AM

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This was the meme that had me laughing the hardest when I went through the thread.

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11-22-2014 , 03:54 AM

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OJ went through a trial, where witnesses actually had to confront him. Are you confident that you know what happened in Ferguson, or with the Florida killing? I entirely agree that the statements against Cosby seem both horrific and compelling, but I think the downsides of a lynch mob mentality are damn bad. Best example I can think of immediately is the Duke lacrosse players, who were absolutely pilloried in the media as representative of a white-dominated, elitist rape culture. And those guys were one hundred per cent innocent.

I think now would be a great time to remind everyone about Al Sharpton and his witch hunt against the alleged rapists.

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Public response to Brawley's story was at first mostly sympathetic. Actor Bill Cosby, among others, pledged support for her and helped raise money for a legal fund. In December 1987, 1,000 people marched through the streets of Newburgh, New York, in support of Brawley.[9]

I haven't read too much about all the accusations against Cosby, but I know that Cosby is fairly reviled for his negative views on modern black culture (which puts him in the crosshairs of a lot of people) and that makes me more inclined to wait to judge him until this actually goes to a trial.

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11-22-2014 , 04:03 AM

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It's very unlikely to ever go to trial.

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11-22-2014 , 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by weevil

I think now would be a great time to remind everyone about Al Sharpton and his witch hunt against the alleged rapists.

I haven't read too much about all the accusations against Cosby, but I know that Cosby is fairly reviled for his negative views on modern black culture (which puts him in the crosshairs of a lot of people) and that makes me more inclined to wait to judge him until this actually goes to a trial.

Bill Maher had a pretty good joke tonight about how black youth can actually now respond to Cosby with, "No sir, you pull your pants up."

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11-22-2014 , 06:21 AM

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11-22-2014 , 07:20 AM

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it's pretty wild that he is still touring right now. thursday night he did a show at the atlantis in the bahamas and apparently got a standing ovation from sections of the crowd lol.

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11-22-2014 , 08:14 AM

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waow, that does sound pretty wild

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11-22-2014 , 08:40 AM

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The violence during/before the sex very possibly leads to issues regarding whether the sex performed after the fact was consensual imo. **** giameshi tho.

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11-22-2014 , 09:48 AM

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If a woman agreed to allow Ghomeshi to beat on her, under Canadian law, a person can't consent to assualt that causes bodily harm, so even consensual BDSM with a non-scumbag rapist could lead to assault charges

But some of the allegations never involved any consent.

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the anonymous woman said she was on a second date with Mr. Ghomeshi 10 years ago when he “threw me in front of him on the ground and started closed-fist pounding me on the head repeatedly until my ears were ringing.”

This date didn't even involve sex. He kicked her out after.

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11-22-2014 , 10:05 AM

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Maybe Jian Ghomeshi was a bad example, since he's not white (although if he said his name was Anthony Vincetti or something everyone would think he was). However I don't think anyone has alleged that the charged against him are racially motivated.
I didn't say they were identical-they involve a famous and beloved celebrity being accused by a number of different women who don't know each other of sexual assault/rape.

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11-22-2014 , 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by weevil

Its not a bunch of black people coming forward against him tho, white people dont give an eff about the fact bill cosby is hated by blacks, if anything it makes them like him more cuz hes telling them to pull their pants up and blaming them for all their problems.

also, theres not going to be a trail. There was a civil trail like a decade ago, but cosby paid them all and settled. (you could use that as claim for motivation)

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11-22-2014 , 10:31 AM

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Court of law has a presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

We aren't a court of law. We are able to understand that it is completely unbelievable that 17 women all independently accused a beloved public figure of rape unless he did some seriously ****ed up ****. We are able to understand this even without an actual trial proving any one charge to be true.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

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11-22-2014 , 10:37 AM

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Well this is a new conspiracy theory. Usually it's that prominent black men are targeted for rape/assault charges by "the man" for getting too uppity. Now we have the black community conspiring with a bunch of white women (I think one of the accusers is black) to bring down probably the most beloved black celebrity for being a hectoring moralist.

This isn't going to trial, which you probably know, so this is just a dodge to say "I'm never going to have to admit he's almost certainly guilty."

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

Keep earning that undertitle.

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11-22-2014 , 10:40 AM

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For debunking obviously false statements? Okay.

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11-22-2014 , 11:29 AM

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I imagine weevil et al. get a way different view on "waiting for the trial" when it comes to, say, OJ Simpsons' guilt.

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11-22-2014 , 01:53 PM

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I think John Travolta was accused by several male masseuses of sexual battery. No idea what happened to those accusations, though.

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11-22-2014 , 01:56 PM

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When she was 17 and pursuing a career as a model and actress, she says, she met Cosby, who she says pursued a mentor-mentee relationship with her and drugged and assaulted her multiple times.

I can't help being a nit here, but did anyone else notice this made up word? I believe the word they were looking for is "protege."

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11-22-2014 , 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong

I think John Travolta was accused by several male masseuses of sexual battery. No idea what happened to those accusations, though.

Could be wrong but I believe be settled multiple accusations out of court.

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11-22-2014 , 02:57 PM

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If anyone is good at cartoon drawing.. a picture of the Cos with small suitcase standing in front of Jian Ghomeshi's place asking if he had a couch to crash on would be brilliant.

To bad all of this is coming out now and so furiously ftr I like the Cos and hope this passes....but I am thinking it isn't