Just got back from this. Some stuff I liked, lots of stuff I didn't.

I loved wonder woman. Her interacting with Bruce was great and she was a badass once she joins the fighting.

Skip this one and rent the dark knight returns instead. Virtually every major event save doomsday is in TDKR and handled much much better.

Also holy **** Snyder is a hack. So much gratuitous slow motion

How much better would this be with Affleck directing?

Gone Baby Gone 94% RT, The Town 94%, Argo 96%. None exactly masterpieces but they are all solid re-watchable films that I personally really like.

There's no way they are keeping Synder around surely.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/crying_game/

Lynda Carter was amazing in the 1970's and perfect for WW at that time but Gal Gadot seems pretty damn good.

I liked the little scene with WW on the passenger jet and deciding she needs to get off and help in the coming fight. I guess that's a subtle way of saying she doesn't have an invisible plane.

I liked it, was about what I expected. I think if you enjoy Snyder you will like it, if you don't you won't. I honestly wouldn't blame someone for not enjoying the film there were parts that weren't very good and cinema sins will have a field day with it someday but I thought the entertainment factor was there, and I think it's probably more enjoyable in the theater where the stellar effects and sound can be enjoyed.


It's also a huge bag of cliches lol. I'm glad everyone was telling me it wasn't good before I went always helps when my expectations are set lower IMO

Liked it a lot, saw it last night with a packed house. Been a Batman geek since I was a kid and Batfleck's version the best I've seen on screen. Loved the take coming from TDK novel, him just not giving a **** any more. Been there, done that and completely jaded to criminals. I keep seeing all these posts and reviews about "why are they fighting, and this movie makes no sense, etc." Pretty sure you just didn't watch a major scene that explains very explicitly why they are fighting, like how the **** can that even be a comment? Feel like a lot of people didn't even watch it, just piling on.

Baltimore Jones,

If you continue with the rabid Batman nuthugging itt I will be forced to turn Batcat into Supercat. Superman would kill Batman every single time ainec.

Despite the ****ty reviews it looks like Zach will likely keep making mediocre movies.

BvS grosses $424 million worldwide opening weekend.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4171&p=.htm

Woods,

From what I've read, Snyder and his wife (producer) sound like they have a big part in the overall nature of the whole DC movie universe (and maybe the whole extended universe).

I haven't seen this yet, but I've never been a fan of his style, so I'm not expecting much.

Just saw it,

I loved it! A few things that I have noticed and wanted to comment on. I think most of the people who didn't like this movie are not comic book fans, because this movie (as much as I like it) did a horrible job of explaining what was going on to someone who doesn't know a fair amount about the universe. So if you don't like the comics or haven't read much of them.. You will probably go into this movie kind of confused as to what is going on.

I am going to address some things that I think are confusing people in spoilers below

Was really feeling it until the end of the BvS fight:

I'm not a Batman fanboy and have no skin in this game. I like to get under the skin of ignorant morans such as yourself who are tied to an idea of Superman as an unstoppable force and Batman as Adam West, when there are actually hundreds of iterations of both characters. The most interesting and probably dominant portrayal of Batman in comics since around Dark Knight Returns is a Batman who is well-prepared for a possible showdown with Superman, and if DC allowed a death-fight that Batman was aware of in advance (as he probably would be, again, because he's portrayed as being sharp as ****) he'd be a solid favorite. Around 70% by my estimation.

Cry about it.

Is this worth seeing in IMAX 2D (not 3D?), or should we just wait to watch it for free online?

Not sure why you guys are using spoilers. I think it was a combination of the fact that he was reminded of his own mother's death and Clark calling out for his mother humanized him in Bat's eyes. Yeah it was still kind of dumb but at least somewhat of a reason for him to give pause.

I definitely wouldn't bother spending the extra for 3D since it was basically non-existant. But otherwise good enough to spend 15 bucks or whatever on.

This is definitely the reason but it just felt so forced and abrupt. They had to stop the fight somehow and have them team up but I wasn't expecting "Martha" to do it instantly. Maybe it worked for some. My theater laughed.

I think the movie is definitely better than the ratings the critics are giving it. 29% on RT.

FYP.

As a courtesy for those who haven't seen it yet. In before well they shouldn't open the thread then. Wrong. Some, like myself, will wade into these threads during the first few days after release to see how people are rating it. Or, for example, Nash just asked about seeing it in IMAX. Generally we keep details inside spoilers for a week or so so that people can do this.

The reviews said that the trailers gave away all of the reveals and basically the entire movie. Haven't seen the movie, is this true?

Trailers gave away pretty much everything related to the plot for this movie. What they didn't give away was the other 2 hours of the thing that only exists to poorly set up the rest of the DC universe movies

A total mess. Which isn't to say it was terrible. There were some decent scenes, I liked eisenberg even though he basically multiplied the hamminess of hackman and spacey. Affleck and Gadot had a nice rapport. But jesus about 80% of the film is just outright nonsense. Snyder makes movies for 10 year olds with ADD. The climactic battle suffers the same problems as man of steel, just endless nonsensical destruction. If you like watching cgi super men smash each other through buildings for 18 minutes this is the movie for you!

But the biggest problem by far is Snyder's conception of superman as more of a darker antihero. The whole point of putting superman and batman together is they are opposites of each other. Superman is good and earnest and represents the light and batman is troubled and angry and represents the darkness. But Cavill's brooding cranky superman is basically batman in a different color costume. Cavill is just so boring and Adams is still just horrifically miscast.

I gave man of steel 36/100 in my needlessly complex 100 pt rating system. I thought this was a marked improvement at 42/100.

I rate it about a 65-70 out of 100. Plenty to like, especially in the Batman arc. Superman is a little lame with this actor, no question, but there was only one Christopher Reeve. Some parts were dumb, but it is a comic book after all. Weakest part was the Batman dream sequence, which I thought should've been cut out, and the thing where Lois throws the spear into the water, then jumps back in to get it. It was a little convenient.

Direction was good considering there's no way they weren't going to CGI us to death. Studio execs want busy films these days, that seems clear. Shame too, because this simple action scene with 1970s technology works better than almost all of the stuff in any of the recent superhero movies. They let the actors and the editing (not to mention the music) do most of the work and then your imagination does the rest:



I was 8 when I saw this for the first time and it still gives me goosebumps. You really felt like she was in danger of falling and that Superman was the ultimate hero. Donner's phone booth gag was awesome too. The audience in the theater cracked up at that and when he caught Lois everyone was cheering and clapping. Great film making. Hard to believe Christopher Reeve was only 25 when this was filmed too.

Most disappointing thing for me about this movie was well as MOS was that they don't use the John Williams theme for Superman. It's pretty much the most perfect music for the character possible, and to me he just isn't quite as 'super' without it. Warner owns the rights to it, so it makes no sense that they'd drop it. It would ramp up the fun quotient a little at least.


I like all these comic movies, and while it's true that the Marvel universe is making some great movies, don't forget that the best superhero movies of them all have pretty much come from the DC characters (namely The Dark Knight, Batman, Superman, Superman II, and Batman Begins). It's great source material when it's done properly. I don't agree with the studio taking things in a dark direction when they had the fun side locked up, but I think the upcoming movies still have a lot of potential and I'm looking forward to them all.

Anyways, I liked it enough to go see it again, which I'll do later this week I expect.

lol this

here we have this guy that can take helicopter/jetfighter mounted minigun fire straight into the actual iris of the eyeball and not even have to blink after the bullet is crushed and a ordinary human with alot of tinkets. But **** yeah, kryptonite is his weakness so were solid.

Ya im unaware of how smart batman is, but it is a ridicolous premise, it just is. Thanos vs Darkseid? Thanos+Darkseid vs Super Saiyan? Assuming Super Saiyan can withstand telepathy powers! 3,2,1... FIGHT!

Great post. It's amazing how difficult casting Superman is post-Reeve. Possibly the main reason Superman films just don't really work, although I kinda liked Superman Returns.

Either way, if Marvel can make such good Captain America films for a modern audience I'm sure there is a good Superman trilogy waiting to be made. As far as superhero films go, the Marvel universe probably bases it's entire model on Superman and Superman II, so it should be that difficult....