The Ask A security guard and scammer Thread

[bigpotpoker]

I know a lot of people are always like what is my play here etc, but I ran into something unusual last week.

At a PGA tournament watching and a lot of people are wasted or whatever and my brother who is 24 has a beer and I am not 21 neither is my younger brother who is with us.

A cop comes up behind us and tells us to talk to him. He asked our ages and said hmm a 24 yr old with 2 underagers, or something along those lines. He tells me he thinks i've been drinking ( i didnt have anything to drink) and my eyes are watery. He asks me a bunch of questions and I'm like dude im here to watch the golf not cause trouble. He still asks a bunch more questions and still is questioning me and I am getting kinda frustrated. I am like so why did you stop me, he says because i have sufficient evidence you've been drinking, but how would he know or even see me considering he walked up behind me.

He ended up giving me a breathalyzer and obv I blew 000. That wasnt good enough so he called dispatch to run all of our licenses.

It literally took 30 minutes and kinda just ruined it for me so i went home. Is there anything I couldve done there?

[DblBarrelJ]

Originally Posted by Hoagie

Traveling 80/70 430 pm. busyish stretch 4 lane expressway(restricted entry). I am a compulsive use of cruise control. My gps said 80mph and my speedo said 78.(I had to put slightly larger tires on my work truck).

I mean even if he concedes 80...I still got a ticket.

Yea. The crime you were charged with was "speeding" so getting that nitty with the actual speed isn't really gonna help you, unless it's so close that you believe you weren't speeding at all.

Unfortunately you really can't prove your 3mph point without conceding you were in violation of the speed limit in the first place, which still gets you fined.

I'd recommend researching it in your area. Many muni courts have a standard fine charge, so if 78 would greatly reduce the fine, it might be worth it. Otherwise it's probably not with the effort IMO.

[DblBarrelJ]

Originally Posted by bigpotpoker

I know a lot of people are always like what is my play here etc, but I ran into something unusual last week.

At a PGA tournament watching and a lot of people are wasted or whatever and my brother who is 24 has a beer and I am not 21 neither is my younger brother who is with us.

A cop comes up behind us and tells us to talk to him. He asked our ages and said hmm a 24 yr old with 2 underagers, or something along those lines. He tells me he thinks i've been drinking ( i didnt have anything to drink) and my eyes are watery. He asks me a bunch of questions and I'm like dude im here to watch the golf not cause trouble. He still asks a bunch more questions and still is questioning me and I am getting kinda frustrated. I am like so why did you stop me, he says because i have sufficient evidence you've been drinking, but how would he know or even see me considering he walked up behind me.

He ended up giving me a breathalyzer and obv I blew 000. That wasnt good enough so he called dispatch to run all of our licenses.

It literally took 30 minutes and kinda just ruined it for me so i went home. Is there anything I couldve done there?

Next time just ask him if you're being detained. If he says no, walk away.

For future reference, I've done uniform security at The Players Championship the past several years and I, along with every other cop out there was off duty.

I would've asked him if he was operating as a law enforcement officer or as security personnel at that moment. Just because he ran you for warrants doesn't mean he's on duty.

I know in many places LEO's are considered "on duty" under the law 24/7 but law and dept policy are two different things. I know where I come from, if I'm gonna hook someone while on an off duty security job, I better have a damn good (Felony) reason. Sure in a legal sense I could arrest you off duty for public intoxication, but I'll catch hell for it internally.

Obviously on a gas station robbery or something of that nature it's all good.

[DblBarrelJ]

Originally Posted by CharlieKelly

Is there a foolproof way, like a breathizer, to determine if somebody is high or not? Say the suspect has taken all the necessary precautions to be visibly not high.

Not a breathalyzer. I've sucessfully prosecuted DUI's re: weed multiple times based on articulation, a field sobriety test and Implied Consent.

Originally Posted by CharlieKelly

Do you personally believe weed should be illegal? Or regulated similar to alcohol?

As long as you're not driving high I'm good personally.

Originally Posted by CharlieKelly

How many people have you dealt with that have died from weed overdose?

Thanks.

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[Makemegood]

Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

I was answering a call for a domestic/noise, the complaint came from the neighbors. It's about 2am, I hate to admit it but I've kind of went into autopilot. As I stroll up, I ALMOST rang the doorbell. Then my training kicked on and I glanced through the window beside the door, where I could clearly see two black males one holding a shot gun one holding a GLOCK standing in the house, standing over 3 Hispanic males and a Hispanic female. Then a 3rd black male comes into view.

I moved back to my car as fast as I could do so tactically, took cover and whispered into my radio "Active home invasion, 3 armed males, 4 hostages, send everybody".

That was one of those times where not only could a mistake have gotten me killed, it could've killed 4 other people.

Did they all survive?

[evilmonke]

What is one of the funniest calls you have encountered?

[Adebisi]

K9 question for you:

Would it be theoretically possible for someone you sent a dog after to avoid being bit and possibly even gain control of the dog (I'm assuming there's a good bit of distance between the handler and the dog/suspect in this hypothetical). I know practically, the situation is always going to be someone running away or someone hiding, or someone worked up into a frenzy. But if a dog found a guy and he was just standing there calm and confident and told the dog to sit, would the dog still be 100% to bite/tackle the guy? What if the suspect had some kind of dog treats or a tennis ball?

[CharlieKelly]

Define implied consent please.

So you have never dealt with anybody who has overdosed on weed?

[DblBarrelJ]

Originally Posted by CharlieKelly

Define implied consent please.

So you have never dealt with anybody who has overdosed on weed?

Implied consent is a GA law that you as a Georgia licensed driver are consenting to submit to a chemical test if you are stopped for driving under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol. If you refuse, you can face harsh consequences.

Since driving is viewed as a privledge and not a right, failing to submit to blood/urine/breath test is considered an admission of guilt.

No I've never dealt with anyone who od'd on weed. I assume you have? Or you have a frivolous non-point to make about weed?

[Teebor]

Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

Next time just ask him if you're being detained. If he says no, walk away.

For future reference, I've done uniform security at The Players Championship the past several years and I, along with every other cop out there was off duty.

I would've asked him if he was operating as a law enforcement officer or as security personnel at that moment. Just because he ran you for warrants doesn't mean he's on duty.

I know in many places LEO's are considered "on duty" under the law 24/7 but law and dept policy are two different things. I know where I come from, if I'm gonna hook someone while on an off duty security job, I better have a damn good (Felony) reason. Sure in a legal sense I could arrest you off duty for public intoxication, but I'll catch hell for it internally.

Obviously on a gas station robbery or something of that nature it's all good.

So in the U.S it's illegal for someone under 21 to be under the influence of alcohol? If true that's crazy. In the U.K it's illegal to possess say cocaine but not to be under the influence of it cos then they would have to charge people who had been spiked etc.

[DblBarrelJ]

Originally Posted by evilmonke

What is one of the funniest calls you have encountered?

I haven't missed this, but I'm on my phone ATM.

I'll give you guys three choices though as a little teaser:

A) Dbl meets the naked MILF with a knife

B) Dbl and the self implicating redneck woman

C) Dbl meets the county slut

You guys vote I'll post when I get home.

[evilmonke]

B, I love the cops episodes when they tell on themselves. lol

[DblBarrelJ]

Originally Posted by Teebor

So in the U.S it's illegal for someone under 21 to be under the influence of alcohol? If true that's crazy. In the U.K it's illegal to possess say cocaine but not to be under the influence of it cos then they would have to charge people who had been spiked etc.

Well you don't have to arrest just because they're high/drunk. That's why Ofcs have discretion.

And the situations where you can arrest a legal adult for being drunk are somewhat limited although the var based on jurisdiction.

[bigpotpoker]

Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

Next time just ask him if you're being detained. If he says no, walk away.

For future reference, I've done uniform security at The Players Championship the past several years and I, along with every other cop out there was off duty.

I would've asked him if he was operating as a law enforcement officer or as security personnel at that moment. Just because he ran you for warrants doesn't mean he's on duty.

I know in many places LEO's are considered "on duty" under the law 24/7 but law and dept policy are two different things. I know where I come from, if I'm gonna hook someone while on an off duty security job, I better have a damn good (Felony) reason. Sure in a legal sense I could arrest you off duty for public intoxication, but I'll catch hell for it internally.

Obviously on a gas station robbery or something of that nature it's all good.

Ya he said I was being detained because he had sufficient evidence I was drinking. Yes he was on duty for sure.

[DblBarrelJ]

Originally Posted by evilmonke

B, I love the cops episodes when they tell on themselves. lol

LirvA would actually like B. I was out doing something special and encountered her. I tried like hell to stop her too. You wanna talk about making sure someone knew their rights? I did that day, because I DID NOT wanna deal with that situation.