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10-21-2010 , 07:30 PM
So we dealt the Dugout Club seats for the Giants game just now.


I'm pretty sure our customer is a well known Full Tilt Pro and probably a 2+2er. I will email him to ask if he wants to post a TR after the game!


Also had a friend who is at the game tell me Standing rooms are going for 200+ on the street right now.

Last edited by OneTimePlz!; 10-21-2010 at 07:44 PM.
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10-23-2010 , 03:53 PM
what can you tell me about getting Rangers tickets now? Probably for game 4.
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10-24-2010 , 01:17 PM
grunch. if you ever got good concert tickets in atlanta you want to move, pm me. apologies if that kind of request is not this threads intent
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10-24-2010 , 06:15 PM
I think it should be said somewhere in here that neither Ticketmaster or the venue set ticket prices for concerts. It's the artist via whoever is promoting the tour. For sports teams, typically the team owns the venue.
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10-24-2010 , 07:36 PM
Very often I'm lazy and buy festival and concert tickets on ebay afterwards, but at a festival this year they actually checked everyones passport and I was ****ed bigtime (by not being able to buy because friends told me they actually checked, didnt spend money but not being able to go was painfull)
In my experience this was the first time they enforced this so I hope for your sake (and my lazy ass sake) they aren't going to pull this stunt too often/aren't working too hard to ban ticket scalping. (I realise it's bad in general but I don't mind paying more as long as I get in)
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10-25-2010 , 10:42 AM
What festival checked people's passports? Was the festival in a foreign country or something?!?!
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10-25-2010 , 01:22 PM
any tips on stand up comedy shows?

for instance, louis ck in philly, not many people selling these (since they probably want to go and comedy show demand probably isn't high) and there are no sets of 2 tickets left through the site

fri nov 5 @ kimmel center in Philly
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10-27-2010 , 01:37 AM
Sorry for missing questions lately, I have been really really swamped with work.

I arrived in San Fran today (Flew into Oakland and then took the BART all the way to Fremont before realizing I was going the wrong way).

Just a word of warning to anyone who might be going to the games in SF or Dallas: Be very careful about buying tickets on the street!

My partner and I were working out of a Starbucks this afternoon and arranged buys from two different craigslist ads. First guy shows up to sell us 4 bleachers for Game 1 for $400ea, which is a great deal.

The guy shows up, and my partner tells him that we have to verify the barcodes on Stubhub before we'll pay for them. (I will never sell a ticket to a customer before verifying the barcodes myself, even if I bought them from a very established broker) This simply means that we list them on Stubhub and enter the barcodes, and Stubhub will instantly tell you whether the barcodes are valid or not (If they were reported stolen, or already sold on Stubhub, or fake, they won't verify). The guy says fine go ahead. I list the first barcode, and flip to the 2nd ticket. Has the same exact barcode as do the other 2.

I smoothly tell the guy, sorry these are invalid we won't buy these. While I was handing them back, I also realized the tickets weren't nearly as glossy as authentic seats, the blue background of the paper stock was pretty dull.

I've touched thousands of tickets in my day and it still took a 2nd look to realize they were no good. I have no question this guy will find a sucker to buy them, as will probably hundreds of people tomorrow.

If you are going to buy tix on the street, make sure 1) The barcodes are each unique and don't have any whiteout or weird-printing. 2) The oversized season-ticket style tickets should be very glossy as you turn them against the light 3) If the guy selling the tickets looks sketchy in any way, or gets weird when you ask where he got them....just move on, it's not worth the risk.

I'll try to post a TR thursday night after game 2 from SF!
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10-27-2010 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by OneTimePlz!
I smoothly tell the guy, sorry these are invalid we won't buy these. While I was handing them back, I also realized the tickets weren't nearly as glossy as authentic seats, the blue background of the paper stock was pretty dull.
Did the guy try to make any excuses as to why they weren't fake? Or did he just leave in a hurry worried about what could possibly happen to him since he knows, that you know that they are?
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10-27-2010 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OneTimePlz!
Just a word of warning to anyone who might be going to the games in SF or Dallas: Be very careful about buying tickets on the street!

My partner and I were working out of a Starbucks this afternoon and arranged buys from two different craigslist ads. First guy shows up to sell us 4 bleachers for Game 1 for $400ea, which is a great deal.

The guy shows up, and my partner tells him that we have to verify the barcodes on Stubhub before we'll pay for them. (I will never sell a ticket to a customer before verifying the barcodes myself, even if I bought them from a very established broker).
This works great for MLB tickets, but do you have any method to know for sure that tickets are legit for other events? Just asking because one purchase of NHL tickets that I bought on CL and flipped on stubhub had been reported stolen. So stubhub was not so happy with me.
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10-27-2010 , 10:21 AM
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Most people tend to have a pretty negative view of ticket brokers, but the way I see it we are providing a significant service.
Please don't say this.

I definitely appreciate the thread and it was very nice of you to make it but the above statement is pretty much akin to poker players saying we are providing a service because rich people like to play poker and they need someone to play against.

Obviously as someone who is making money you're providing a service or product someone wants.

Ticket brokers also raise the cost of events for the 95% of the people that don't want to get their tickets from ticket brokers, hence the bad reputation.

PS I don't think your a scumbag or anything at all, I just think in terms of a profession that helps people ticket broker has to be in the bottom 1%.

Last edited by HeyEveryone; 10-27-2010 at 10:29 AM.
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10-27-2010 , 03:49 PM
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Ticket brokers also raise the cost of events for the 95% of the people that don't want to get their tickets from ticket brokers, hence the bad reputation.
I would say most events you can get cheaper on the secondary market than on ticketmaster. Sometimes way cheaper. Obviously the really popular events will be more expensive, but they were going to be difficult to find tickets anyways. In that case I like it as well because I can be ensured that I can actually get tickets and the "all the ticket brokers buying tickets is the reason why you can't find any tickets on ticketmaster" argument is a pretty bad one IMO.

I really like that there's a secondary market, as last year I went to a bunch of hockey games at 1/2 cost and a few concerts at under face value. Most notably a tom petty concert for 15$/ticket where face value was something ridic like 70-80$.

I mean ticketmaster raises ticket fees on tickets and they more or less own a monopoly on the primary ticket market. (and a decent share of the secondary market as well...ya ticketmaster scalps). Really I don't see the difference except that with brokers the free market chooses the value of the ticket.
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10-27-2010 , 07:46 PM
Heh, I went on to Stubhub to see if I could have got my Florence + the Machine tickets for cheap. There was two sellers selling for $500 and $1000 for a $35 general admission ticket. Now I'm looking to sell since I would feel like I was throwing money away if I didn't. I'm having trouble getting a gauge for market value though. Plenty of people saying they're willing to pay $50-$100 for tickets on Craigslist and Kijiji, but virtually no tickets available. Will I be better off setting the price high and waiting? Or making it somewhat reasonable now?
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10-27-2010 , 07:48 PM
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I definitely appreciate the thread and it was very nice of you to make it but ...
If you appreciate the thread then quit tarding it up by rehashing the same tired crap that's already been beaten to death in here.

This is one of the best 'ask me' threads OOT has ever had, and it would be even better if some of the scalper whining was removed.
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10-27-2010 , 08:38 PM
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Heh, I went on to Stubhub to see if I could have got my Florence + the Machine tickets for cheap. There was two sellers selling for $500 and $1000 for a $35 general admission ticket. Now I'm looking to sell since I would feel like I was throwing money away if I didn't. I'm having trouble getting a gauge for market value though. Plenty of people saying they're willing to pay $50-$100 for tickets on Craigslist and Kijiji, but virtually no tickets available. Will I be better off setting the price high and waiting? Or making it somewhat reasonable now?
I obviously don't have the expertise that OP has, but I would recommend looking at the past tickets that have sold (start doing a fake listing to get this information, just don't confirm the listing). This is more valuable than the actual tickets listed IMO. Sometimes the seller listing on stubhub is not expecting to actually sell the tickets there at that price. They just sort of threw them up at a really high price to see if someone would snap buy them, but has a backup plan for selling the ticket. As I really doubt any 35$ GA ticket will go for 500$. It's not impossible, just really really unlikely.

Also generally speaking I find concert tickets drop in price as the concert gets close (everyone trying to get rid of tickets), but this may not be the case if there is not very many sellers.

Ebay is also a decent place to get a rough gauge of the market price for the tickets. Of course looking at completed listings as well as whats listed.
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10-28-2010 , 07:36 AM
Went to throw them up on stubhub. When you do it lists prices that previous tickets have sold for, and when. Pretty cool feature.
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10-28-2010 , 03:20 PM
I am really keen to get a ticket to go and see the Seahawks play the Giants on Nov 7th. What is the cheapest way possible to do this, bearing in mind quality of seats is not of the highest importance?
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11-10-2010 , 06:42 PM
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I totally understand your point. I was a huge sports fan and moderate concert-attendee way before I got into this business, so trust me I understand both sides of this issue.

The first question to ask is why would a team put tickets for sale at face value prices significantly below the fair market price? Why was the face value of prime tix for Yankees Game 1 World Series last year $425 each when they were worth $2,000 each at least? Why are 50-yard line Ohio State-Michigan tix sold for $60 each at the box office when they are worth $300 each easy? Why did Lady Gaga put VIP Little Monster Gold packages for sale at $450 each for this tour when they were worth $250-300 each at best? (for a ticket with laminate and a free tshirt)

You can figure out the answers yourself, but we both can agree that for any event there's a fixed supply of seats, and a variable demand for ticketless fans who want to see the game. These tickets will trade on the open market at whatever they're actually worth.

When a hot game goes onsale at 10am on Ticketmaster at ridiculously low prices, and there are 10 people who want a ticket for each available ticket, your only chance of snagging one is to be at your computer with a fast internet connection willing to waste an hour, or a willingness to camp out at the box office for hours. Most people don't have that kind of time, most people have real jobs.

Is the ticket distribution system currently in place fair? How do you define fair?

In 2004 my dad and I went to Busch Stadium for the Cards-Astros NLCS game 7. My dad brought $1,000 in his wallet and we spent 2 hours trying to find a pair of tickets. No one would sell us one, because we were surrounded by people readily paying $550-600 each. We got shut out. If we had brought $1250, we would have seem Jim Edmonds hit his 12th inning HR. I really really really wish we had.

We didn't have time to sit at the Cardinals website at 10am when NLCS tix went onsale for $75-150 each a couple weeks before. I had to be at school and my dad was busy at work. We had no chance of buying tickets at those prices. Had the Cardinals originally sold them for $400-500 each, we would have certainly been able to snag 2, because the primary market wouldn't have sold out until the day of the game when the demand reached this fever pitch.

If the Twins release some more $11 face value tickets for the Twins-White Sox game tonight (cheapest on Stubhub now is $70 each), I am going to buy as many as I can possibly get my hands on to resell. I really hope they do (I've gotten a release like this for almost every game this year). If I buy 20, and sell them on Stubhub tomorrow for $60 each and make $800...Is that fair? of course not.

Let's assume I don't get lucky and 20 different Twins fans catch the release and go to the game for $11 each. Is that more fair? At first glance it seems much more fair. However, these 20 fans are essentially paying $50 each by using the tickets and choosing not to resell. At the game there will be dozens of people with their fingers in the air willing and ready to pay $50-$60 each. Even though these lucky fans only shelled out $11 cash, they are choosing to go to the game instead of taking the $50. Seems more or less fair to me.

Do I provide a service? Absolutely. And I say that with a totally straight face.

I didnt read all 21 pages, but I got to here and realized. the ticket game is like the reverse plane ticket game. If you book a plane ticket 2-4 months in advance it's 50% of what it is the week/night before.
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11-11-2010 , 02:46 PM
First of all... GREAT THREAD TOPIC AND THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INSIGHT!!!

I recently became interested in ticket brokering but have no clue where to start or if I should at all. A couple quick questions to gain your perspective, if I may...

1) Is it possible to make any money as an affiliate with Ticket Network (not having any physical tickets) and just using internet marketing strategies in order to drive traffic to your site to sell other peoples' tickets for profit? Is it even worth doing?

2) Is there money in selling presale passwords? (obviously it was for the guy selling giants/rangers tickets on ebay in your previous story) And how to you view that market? Valuable or not?

3) What software, resources, or any other tips are essential for success as a ticket broker? What does it take in terms of character, skills, and drive as well?

Respond here or PM me, whichever you prefer.

Again, thanks for your time and effort in this great thread! I am so glad I stumbled upon it. Be blessed.
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11-13-2010 , 07:28 PM
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1) Is it possible to make any money as an affiliate with Ticket Network (not having any physical tickets) and just using internet marketing strategies in order to drive traffic to your site to sell other peoples' tickets for profit? Is it even worth doing?
No there's no money in this...no money at all

In all seriousness though, it is a very competitive market and if you are just starting out with SEO I wouldn't recommend starting here. I don't think there's much money in adwords, as most cost a lot and conversion is usually low comparatively...but I could be wrong there.
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11-14-2010 , 11:29 PM
interested in tickets to see anthony bourdain on the 20th this saturday at the cobb energy center in atlanta. would need 2
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11-24-2010 , 10:02 AM
I'm trying to understand the difference between

Ticket Network point of sale (TN POS)

Ticket Network Direct (TND)

and Tickettransaction.com

I've noticed that many sites are powered by tickettransaction.com or by TND
I know they both related to TNW, I just trying to figure out how, and what is the difference, and if those sites have there own tickets inventory, or they just use TNW inventory

Hope that you could help me out here.

Micahel.
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11-26-2010 , 02:50 AM
I started re-selling concert tickets about 5 months and so far I have done pretty good considering I do it part time and pretty much use it as a hobby that makes a few bucks.

I'm looking to expand some and make a little more money. Currently I only do concerts. I am not sure why since I am a HUGE sports fan and only been to a few concerts. I have heard there is more money in sports, but I'm not sure if this is true? What is the best way to get sports tickets for resale? For example, I tried getting tickets to an upcoming NY Giants game through ticketmaster. 2 tickets were over $1,000 dollars but on ebay, I could get better seat for half of that price and that was from a ticket seller, not just an average person with extra tickets. Where does the seller get his tickets and how does he get them so cheap?

Also, is there a program out there that will tell you how close a specific event is to selling out?

I'm brand new to this thread, thanks for any and all help you give.
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11-26-2010 , 09:14 AM
Looking for 2 sec championship tickets...got any good deals?
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12-01-2010 , 11:00 PM
Kid Rock on Jan 21 at the Dow. Need 8 tickets so I'm gonna try to fire off 3-4 computers at once when they go on sale. What are the odds that I can flip my extras for a profit?
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