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07-27-2010, 03:14 PM
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
omg theres a book ITT
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07-27-2010, 03:15 PM
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#152
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
This is definitely one of the weirder OOT threads ever. Wtf OP, run while you still can
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07-27-2010, 03:16 PM
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#153
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
I didn't mean get off in a sexual sense. I meant that a component to your whole relationship dynamic seems to be that you enjoy Little Michelle's existence, at least partly b/c it necessitates more of a parent/child or caretaker/caretakee (as you put it) relationship.
This is not normal stuff--it's not comparable to enjoying mentoring people or wanting to teach, although it may be sort of tangentially-related. If you in certain ways approve of this personality's existence b/c it sets up a dynamic you like, it's not like she's not going to pick up on it. It really seems like you're playing with fire here, my $.02, although not a psychiatrist, just internet opinion-haver.
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07-27-2010, 03:19 PM
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#154
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
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Sexual abuse often feels physically good to the victim. It doesn't change the fact that it is abuse
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LMAO
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07-27-2010, 03:19 PM
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#155
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
I think it's a perfectly healthy human characteristic to want to look after someone we care about, don't see why a fuss is being made over that.
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07-27-2010, 03:21 PM
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#156
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
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Originally Posted by wazz
I think it's a perfectly healthy human characteristic to want to look after someone we care about, don't see why a fuss is being made over that.
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+1 I don't see why all the people are spazzing over the LM stuff.
Fact is she could be WAY worse off with crazy preacher dad than with a guy who loves her.
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07-27-2010, 03:23 PM
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#157
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
You know she's gonna look like her mom in 20 years, right? And still be crazy?
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Her mom wouldn't be too bad if she lost a little weight and the glasses.
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Originally Posted by wazz
OP, why is asparagus like anal sex?
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idk how
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Originally Posted by LFS
I don't know if this has been asked, but OP do you think you have any mental problems of your own? I can't decide if you are a normal guy dealing with an abnormal situation or if you are pretty twisted. Having sex with a girl that looks that young while she thinks she's nine or whatever is really freaking me out. On the other hand, you're having a relatively normal consensual relationship with a fellow adult, so I dunno.
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Yeah could be. I've had some pretty bad bouts of depression here and there. I'll probably end up in therapy over it once all this settles down.
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
No, I don't think you did at all. The fact that Little Michelle comes on to you does not make it okay. Children sometimes (often) want things that are bad for them. That is why they have parents/caretakers that say "no" on their behalf.
Sexual abuse often feels physically good to the victim. It doesn't change the fact that it is abuse, or that the victim is not ready for it. It also can make dealing with the abuse more difficult psychologically because admitting it feels good makes the victim feel guilty.
What does her therapist think about the fact that you have sexual relations with LM? This is genuine curiosity, btw, because I can imagine an argument for doing it, but I'd really like to know what the therapist says.
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Agree.
She doesn't seem to think there's any problem with it considering (stuff in my reply to Tony Lepatata's question).
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Originally Posted by speedle
such a sick thread, such an interesting subject... thanks for doing this man, I dont have any questions for now but will def post them if/when they do come up
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Go for it.
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Originally Posted by JustJ46671
which one will be most likely to kill you in your sleep (or is it one you haven't met yet)?
tough to bail when you're in love, but when monster matty comes after you with a can of gas and zippo...well, good luck bro.
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If I had to answer now, I'd say either none of them or one that I haven't met yet (if any more are there).
Yeah I know. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Rushmore
I am speechless. Just, I, well...I don't know what to say.
You need to take an airplane far away. FAR away.
"Little Michelle noms on a book, Normal Michelle does this or that..."
You realize that girl looks like she's 13 years old, right?
Also, this picture is downright scary:

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I don't know why the picture is so dark. It's more brighter on my phone and she was happy to be progressing and getting help.
And yes I've given her hell about looking so young since the first time I saw her.
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Originally Posted by xbeatax
I read most of this but a lot of it actually started to disgust and upset me so I had to stop.
1) Were you introduced to all of her personalities all at once or did they develop over time?
2) Are you a "normal" dude? What do you do for a living?
Also, has anyone else noticed that most tiny/small girls are ****ing bonkers?
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1) It's in this post.
2) I was in school when I met her, hit the pause button on school to play poker and build a financial cushion, and that's when stuff went haywire. I stopped playing poker mostly and tutor math and write.
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Originally Posted by Aloysius
OP - first, this is a very interesting thread, so thanks for it.
I agree with alot of this, and have 2 questions around this idea:
Question 1 - have you carefully thought through / considered the notion that your being with her right now is actually hindering a potential full recovery? What do her therapists think about her being in an intense, romantic relationship at this stage?
Question 2 - I think it's pretty clear that you enjoy the part of the relationship where you take care of her. Save her. This isn't uncommon a driver for men and their attraction to women... but it's safe to say this is an extreme version of that impulse. My question is (and we haven't really heard alot about your own story) - why do you think this is for you?
I'm sorry - why is this "neat"? Just curious.
Thanks, OP!
-Al
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Quite welcome.
1) Yes, and it was heavy on me for a while, until her therapist randomly brought it up one day in front of us both and wanted to assure me that this would have happened eventually whether we were together or not, and that our relationship is probably making it happen sooner rather than later because of how her comfort level changed.
2) I mentioned this in an earlier response, but up until March of this year, everything that happened was more along the lines of "oh that's weird" than "holy crap run". The only time I've ever felt in immediate danger was the conflict with Matilda, even though for a while after she came back home from the hospital I sort of had this lingering fear of omfg what if she's going to cut my throat in my sleep. Before that, and even after that, I've never been in any sort of danger myself. As for why this is for me, well I pretty much went from never wanting to get married to seriously considering marrying her in the year and a half we were together before the seizures started. That's just how strongly I felt for her, and how well we got along, and so on and so forth. I heavily re-evaluated around the time the seizures started, then again around the time the Matilda thing started. Sometimes I wonder if I would have been exposed to it all at one time if I would have stayed around, instead of incrementally being introduced to it.
@neat, I just thought it was interesting along the lines of the whole anxiety thing, more related to poker psychology than the stuff in this thread probably.
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07-27-2010, 03:26 PM
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#158
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
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I think it's a perfectly healthy human characteristic to want to look after someone we care about, don't see why a fuss is being made over that.
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There's a difference between hating what someone you love is going through and wanting to help them and help them change it, and helping someone you love while secretly or not so secretly enjoying the fact that they're dependent on you.
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07-27-2010, 03:27 PM
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
Since she is very likely to hurt herself when switching to certain other personalities, how can you ever leave her alone all by herself? Arent you scared to death that you find her with cut wrists or something?
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07-27-2010, 03:30 PM
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
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Originally Posted by YouWishFish
+1 I don't see why all the people are spazzing over the LM stuff.
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Because he cites the fatherly role he's in when she's nine (or younger), including bath time, her peeking and shyness with nudity, and what's appropriate for dinner, then puts his penis in her while she's a child. How aren't more people at least a little curious about the mentality behind that?
I like to think that if I had Michelle's condition, I would have the wherewithal to state unequivocally that you can do whatever you like with the other three, but if I catch you with nine-year-old me, I will effing end you. Nevermind that Michelle Proper apparently isn't bothered by it, it's nauseating that he hasn't arrived at that on his own.
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07-27-2010, 03:31 PM
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
Have you two ever thought about murdering her uncle and pointing to this thread as a defense? Little Michelle sex thing is definitely weird but you don't seem to have any hang ups about it.
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07-27-2010, 03:32 PM
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#162
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
Need to wander into OOT more often.
I'll think of some good questions eventually, but really cool thread. Thank you and thank Michelle for being cool with it. You seem like a really cool guy with a sense of humour about the whole thing and a lot of dedication. I hope it works out for the best for both (lol all) of you.
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07-27-2010, 03:33 PM
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
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Originally Posted by ATAT
There's a difference between hating what someone you love is going through and wanting to help them and help them change it, and helping someone you love while secretly or not so secretly enjoying the fact that they're dependent on you.
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I can't see any suggestion that OP is happy about this situation, consciously or unconsciously. In any case, even if OP is happy about being able to take care of someone, why does that make him bad? There is the idea that there is no such thing as a selfless act, which I actually subscribe to.
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07-27-2010, 03:33 PM
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
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Originally Posted by Poker Reference
I would also be interested to know what the therapist makes of you having sex with Michelle's nine-year-old self.
Even if Michelle Proper hadn't been molested, it seems a little bent to have sex with anyone who thinks they're a child.
How does this differ from molesting someone who is moderately retarded?
****, if an actual nine-year-old came on to you, would you have sex with her? What do you think is a meaningful difference between having sex with a nine-year-old who knows she's nine, and a 23-year-old who only thinks she is?
You won't let her have ice cream for dinner, but you'll **** her?
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Answered this previously.
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Originally Posted by RoundTower
do you want her to be "cured"? How would you feel about never meeting Little Michelle or Rebecca again?
I guess the cutting and seizures are intricately tied up with the multiple personalities, and it would be great to get rid of those, and that probably isn't possible as long as she has MPD/DID. But still, would you want her to go back to being just "Michelle" or would you prefer to see all the other personalities make peace with themselves but stick around?
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I've thought about this, and I've wondered if I'd miss them, but I truly don't know. If Michelle went back to being how she was before this happened, that would be cool. If not, that's cool too, as long as I don't end up dead over it. But I guess my actions sort of show that there's a certain level of that risk I'm willing to take up to this point in time?
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Originally Posted by supafrey
OH COME ON LOOK AT HER YOU DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS GONNA BE CRAZY?
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lol
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Originally Posted by xbeatax
Wow, I didn't read that little blurb, but it just makes me think WTF. Maybe I just hate the way you worded that, but to me you really seem like you're her father/caretaker and not a boyfriend. You really speak about her as if she was a child.
The way you talk about her, I have a very hard time believing you can have an intense emotional and sexual relationship with her. Also, your reason for staying with her isn't even a reason! You're still avoiding the question.
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It was probably how it was worded. I answered this in the previous set of questions (or maybe the one before that).
Maybe it's just because I'm trying to describe what's going on and what's happened without going off on some Danielle Steele stuff.
Why do I need such a qualifying reason to stay? I think you'd need a justification for leaving.
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Originally Posted by HotzenplOdds
Amazing stuff. Just read this entire thread, even that one ****ing long epic post of yours, OP. 5*
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hi5
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Originally Posted by HobbyHorse
OP, can you describe what kind of therapy/treatment Michelle is getting in order to deal with this? All you've really mentioned is some one-on-one talks with a therapist/therapists - how often does she have these therapy sessions? Is she on any kind of medication?
Does the level of therapy that she's getting seem enough to you?
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One-on-one talks and other random stuff they do like working through books and things like that and Michelle/I-on-one talks occasionally with the same woman once a week. She sees a psychiatrist for the medication end about once a month. She's on varying amounts of Paxil and Abilify, I think.
For me, no level would probably be enough, but the people she works with on a regular basis seem to really know their stuff and have dealt with similar before.
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Originally Posted by NoahSD
Do some of the personalities have abilities that the other's don't? Like can Little Michelle do things adults can do like drive and crap?
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Not really, except Little Michelle seems to have some lower level of motor ability. When she writes it's kind of choppy, and she has trouble controlling her hands and feet for more "fine" movements in general.
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Chicks with multiple personalities are the nuts.
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Originally Posted by wazz
kids can crap
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lolx2
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07-27-2010, 03:34 PM
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#165
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adept
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Re: ask me what it's like dating a chick with multiple personalities
I think I'm caught up through page 10. Just leaving this so I know where to start next time.
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