Pardon the novel length post, but I might not be back for awhile...

Then you really are not interested in the community per say, but in a fringe element of the community. Most people in the doll community are very private and most just buy their dolls as a masturbation tool. The full meal deal sure as hell beats simulated body parts...who are you looking for, the Hannibal Lecter of the sex world ?

Fact is, every time we get a new forum that discovers the Doll Forum, the manufacturers report increased sales and our active membership goes up, so that means that some of you will be joining our community and purchasing a male or female doll. BTW, the majority of male doll purchasers are gay...not female.

Most men I have met that have given an honest answer would 'do a doll'. Then again men will do just about anything. My wife once had a guy admitted to emergency with lacerations on his penis because he tried to do it with his vacuum cleaner. Now THAT is someone you might want to talk to. If you are one of the males who wouldn't do a sexy surrogate of a woman (or man if you are gay), you are in fact in the minority. Some of you here will speak negatively about the dolls and be secretly lusting for them at the same time. This is human nature.

NotMyName is a decent guy, not unlike any other guy you'd meet on the street. Has a job, works hard, is a great musician and just happens to like Teddy Babes. He is not participating in the Doll Pride Parade. He is just not hiding in the closet. He doesn't care whether you like his hobby (of fetish if you see it that way). He is comfortable with it. And the dolls he has are better Babe Magnets than my sports car. Search "Teddy Babes and AVN"

If you want the number one iDollator (One who prefers a doll over a human relationship and truly believes the doll has as much to offer as a real woman, Davecat is your man. He has appeared in just about every documentary on dolls there is. He isn't very keen on TDF but you can find him with his other iDollator buddies at http://ourdollcommunity.com/forum/ BUT he is not representative of the majority of doll owners...only about 15% max.

Also, I doubt you could ask a question here that has not already been asked and answered at dollforum.com So why not try the advanced search there, and find the answers you seek or do you seek more than just answers?

Cheers,
Midiman

What can I say...beats an expensive sports car, or body building. I had porn stars beckoning me to the front of the line to see the Teddy Babes Hmm is that Penny Flame and Jenna Haze in the bottom row?

Oh and meet Bianca from Lars and the Real Girl. Even though Lars didn't want her anymore I took her on. She is the most famous RealDoll...only problem was she was NOT anatomically correct...something 8000 miles of driving corrected...but that's another story.

Thanks for your post. An ask me thread is more for our curiosity than to help you, but I do agree that sales and forum membership are likely to increase due to the exposure here.

I think most posters here are just curious and respectful, always some people who will cross the line because hey, its the internet, and they can post whatever they want. But they are likely just insecure themselves.

seems like you've hooked your random doll owner

If you want to ask sensible questions I'll answer some

yes I have read all of this thread & in general most of you seem to have your heads screwed on, I guess there is going to be some piss taking, but if you want me to stick around you'll just have to play nice

let me start by saying there is no such thing as a typical doll owner, our reasons are many fold

some of us are tired of the dating game, others of us never tried it, some of us are married & want a little extra but dont want to cheat on our partners, others of us have lossed partners & can't face the idea of defiling their memory by starting another relationship, some of us just like the idea of owning the worlds most expensive sex toy

if you were to ask us all why we own dolls, you might as well ask us what our favourite movie is because you would get that many different answers

we are all sexual beings, there is no abnormal when it comes to sexual desire, society drills us from an early age about what is right & wrong & we all grow up dogmatized, but we do have minds of our own & we can decide what we do with or to our own bodies

we all have fantasies, hopes, & dreams, & some of us are open minded enough to explore those fantasies,

let me pose a little scenanio for you, if you were to find yourself alone in a room with one of these dolls & a bottle of lube & no one would ever find out....

don't answer that question. it doesn't need a reply but I bet if you were to be honest with yourselves more than half would

No question about that. My getting involved in these things has cost me my next sports car Mind you dolls do provide a 'ride' of sorts

Oh yeah we're def more interested in the fringe. Banging a doll we get. But, like, the guy whose mom bought his doll a dress? That's the guy we'd like to hear from.

I smiled at the idea of LF representing OOT's interests. This just gets better and better.

But I think it's great you guys came over to answer a question or two. I'm not entirely sure what comes of this, but it'll be informative and fascinating, I'm guessing.

I guess I'll start by asking the first question assuming one of you isn't starting your own thread.

When people get together or show pictures online, is there any sort of jealousy or one upmanship. Like if someone has a really cheap or older doll, do people look down on him because of that? Like people buy cars and houses to show off and make others jealous, is that the reason people have more than one doll, or want to get the best and newest doll?

midiman/tatler,

Does anyone know how many realistic dolls have been sold? Someday economies of scale will make the price will come down and I imagine sales will really explode, and I bet the religious right will **** themselves (likely much worse than how they react to poker). Have there been any protests/legal fights with fundamentalists?

Also, how long do you think it'll be before a realistic doll is mass produced in China?

Don't get me wrong btw, I'm not saying I don't want to hear from your average own-a-doll-just-to-****-it type person. That's def interesting, too. But some portion of your community, like e.g. the people in the Dolls Alive forum, these people might be clinically insane. I would like to hear from these people.

I'd hit it.

that midi guy kinda resembled Dan Harrington.

'iDollator.' Heh. midi, can you lay some more example lingo on us? I bet there's some gems. I, like Landon, would like to hear primarily from the 'iDollator' community, if you could scare one of those guys up that'd be great. And don't talk ****, Landon. These people are our guests. OFFER THEM A FANTA.

OH, OF COURSE YOU POURED YOURSELF ONE FIRST YOU LITTLE ****.

IS THAT THE LAST PINEAPPLE? GO TO THE ****ING STORE.

I post in the dolls alive forum, not so much at TDF but at some other doll forums I frequent

I have a letter from my shrink to say I am perfectly sane

but seriously, it's just pure escapism for me, fantasy role play, no different than playing a character in a computer game where the only constraints are the limits of your own imagination

then if you add a picture or two to sell the story & help others imagine the scenario too you build up an interactive fantasy just like any OLRPG

Ever been caught in the act?

Can you paraphrase it?

But like, people generally don't **** their copies of Halo: Reach, so you'll admit to a certain degree of difference, yeah?

Question - how much time does one typically spend on this sort of thing. I guess it's the kind of endeavor where you can put as much or as little into it as you want, but I know something like Dungeons & Dragons, since you make that comparison, is a 20/hr a week commitment, and there's not even any poon involved, space-age rubber compound or flesh version either.

Isn't that like trolling 2+2 and wanting to hear only from people who've lost a vast fortune gambling?


Then again, anyone browsing this thread who has lost a vast fortune gambling want to start an Ask Me thread? I've always wondered what kept you guys at the tables.

The closest group of people I have encountered to Doll owners as to psyche is classic car collectors. Everyone wants to have the best looking, sexiest dolly, however, most are polite and the community as a whole tends to encourage even the inflatable doll owners in there photographic efforts. Actually I have seen a few that were actually quite nice. The noted best photographer in the community is in fact a female who owns 10 dolls and has a husband,

But why does one have more than one doll, could be answered by another question...Why does one have more than one car?

Different dolls do different things better. Teddy Babes seem to be popular in pairs. One on each side of you in bed and you can throw away the covers I think they are rated R14 for insulation factor. Plant your nose between one's boobs and and keep the sun out of your eyes in the morning But if you want to feel more like a real woman is in your presence you would go for a high end silicone doll. I was quite surprised after picking up my jessica drake WickedDoll in Vegas at how many people recognized her on my drive home. A few dolls around your study can let you live a Hugh Hefner fantasy Then again, variety is the spice of life as they say.

Here's my doll, Jenny Densuke used in the XXX movie 'Regarding Jenny'. I decided to start collecting movie dolls. This one even got raped by another naughty doll community member after I bought it and before I received it That story is at dollchronicles.com



We all know you masturbate, Kurosh. The fact that you find your hand more attractive than a 3D representation of a woman is nothing to be proud of We see ourselves as honoring woman by not reducing them to just their sexual parts.

midiman, have you ever played poker? If so, have any bad beat stories you wanna share?

I mean, that's not really a fair comparison. Your hand isn't really relevant - you're either watching something sexual or imagining something sexual.

A few questions:

Am I understanding correctly that you now own the doll from Lars and Real Girl? Could you link to a trip report of the 8000 mile pilgrimage for anatomical correctness?

There's been multiple threads about fleshlights and other masturbation aids on here . . . I can understand there being a doll-as-masturbation-aid Internet forum. But I'm confused by the meet-ups and other stuff. If only 15% of people are iDollerators (or whatever), then why do the vast majority seem to "play along"? Does that indicate that it's more of than just a masturbation aid for most? The most recent post about the fantasy-aspect of things cleared this up for me some, but I'd like to hear

I'm interested in hearing from a variety of different of different doll-owners who own dolls for a variety of different reasons, but could you answer some basics regarding your interactions with your doll? frequency, nature, etc. . . . Also please address whether you keep your hobby /passion a secret from neighbors, coworkers, and extended family? If not, was that a later development in your doll ownership?

We're aware that we could probably search your forums for answers to these questions, but we are lazy and it's interesting. Few of us will bother, but this could be a very exciting discussion.

Finally, please link us to the trip report about the dude at AVN. Sounds interesting.

I don't think dolls can be raped.

Good point, and when you have a 3D representation it is better than a hand and a movie My jessica drake, mind you likes to watch her movies and do me at the same time...ummm..only she needs a bit of help moving as she's sort of like a deaf and dumb quadra-palegic....

But, hey, dolls are centuries old. High time they made some for us.

On the poker question? I really haven't played much at all since my 20's. The last tiome I played was in Vegas in our dolly strip poker game and Bianca lost all her clothes. She was not happy as she never photographs in the nude, being a 'nice girl' kinda doll like in the movie

Well, obviously most of us get that . . . but very few of us would own a doll for the social stigmatization reasons, whether or not we'd use it. What was your experience like of crossing that line?

For the two of you (or others if they join in), do you think some members of the community take it too far? What are examples of when people are crossing that line? Do you see people who check out of the possibility of normal human sexual interaction and idealize this as mentally healthy? What do psychiatrists say about these people?

Also, could you link these stories you keep mentioning instead of just talking about them?

Finally, maybe instead of moving the discussion, a moderator could adjust the title to indicate that we have Doll Enthusiasts answering questions.

it's no different from any other hobby really you spend as much time as you like

I have many other hobbies that I enjoy so I tend to spread my time between them or more on which ever takes my fancy at the time

some times I'll get started on an idea & the whole day can be gone before I know it

midiman, you mentioned your wife in an earlier post. Are you still married? If so how does she feel about the dolls? If not, did the dolls come before or after your marriage ended?