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Old 08-14-2017, 11:50 AM   #7776
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Re: Ask me about being an airline pilot or flying in general

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I'm pretty sure much of that has been discussed in this thread if you can find it with the search tool.
yeah but there's like 2000 mentions of "sully" in this thread so searching is pretty hard
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:38 PM   #7777
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:30 PM   #7778
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W0X0F (or anyone, really):

How much of the famous "miracle on the hudson" was really a miracle?

there's a couple of ways to break this down:

1) if that same scenario plays out 1000 times (same conditions, same crew, etc) how many times is Sully able to successfully "land" that plane in the river and get everyone out without fatalities? I.e. did sully just get insanely lucky or was this a pretty simple operation?

(bonus question: what DO you call it when you land in the water? Like, if you have a sea plane and that's what you're SUPPOSED to do, is it still called "landing"?)

2) same question but for "replacement level pilot"? Is Sully just really good or could anyone have done what he did?

3) how many pilots would have made the decision to try the river?
When you land on the water in an emergency it's called Ditching the aircraft.

Sully did what he was trained to do, but in my opinion a lot of things fell together to make it a smooth operation.

Decisions are always very critical and for Sully to be aware of the fact that he wasn't going to make Teterboro (a corporate jet airport about 7 miles away), he committed the aircraft to the river.

The miracle is the Hudson River was at the right place at the right time, because if he wasn't able to land there, there's really no where else to land. There's a highway, Route 80, right below him, but it always has very heavy traffic and there are wires everywhere.

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Old 08-15-2017, 05:10 PM   #7779
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Re: Ask me about being an airline pilot or flying in general

With all the discussion in this thread about runway naming and magnetic north, I thought this article about an airport changing their runway numbers would be interesting to people.

Pilots, check your bearings: Boeing Field catches up with Earth’s magnetic field
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Re: Ask me about being an airline pilot or flying in general

Does the airport authority shift the ILS and runway lighting to correspond to magnetic variation when they change the runway numbers, or do they shift them as necessary each year?
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Old Yesterday, 09:39 PM   #7782
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Does the airport authority shift the ILS and runway lighting to correspond to magnetic variation when they change the runway numbers, or do they shift them as necessary each year?
The ILS and lighting systems are physically aligned with the runway centerline. The installation could be made with no knowledge of the the runway's orientation with respect to magnetic North (or true North for that matter). No adjustment to these installations is required, though the ILS is flight checked periodically to ensure that it is still properly aligned (i.e. that nothing has knocked it out of alignment, or somehow disturbed the installation).
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