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Old 07-12-2017, 09:59 PM   #7726
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Is it SOP (for your airline) to tune in an available ILS, even when / before cleared for a visual approach?

And if so, is it then SOP to check the ILS to verify the rwy ?
Yes and yes.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:35 PM   #7727
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Hi W0X0F, my girlfriend is in Salt Lake City and has a scheduled Delta flight returning to Seattle on Saturday, but the travel person for her organization is warning her about possible impacts from a pilots strike? We did some googling but could only find that BA pilots and pilots for a small French airline are or will be striking. Do you know anything about a strike that could impact western US flights by chance?
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Old 07-13-2017, 06:33 AM   #7728
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Hi W0X0F, my girlfriend is in Salt Lake City and has a scheduled Delta flight returning to Seattle on Saturday, but the travel person for her organization is warning her about possible impacts from a pilots strike? We did some googling but could only find that BA pilots and pilots for a small French airline are or will be striking. Do you know anything about a strike that could impact western US flights by chance?
I haven't heard anything about this. Admittedly, I'm out of the loop a bit right now, but my brother is a Delta Captain and I talked to him just yesterday. He's starting a four day trip today and said nothing about an impending strike. I think I would certainly have heard something.
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Old 07-14-2017, 08:18 PM   #7729
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Hi W0X0F, my girlfriend is in Salt Lake City and has a scheduled Delta flight returning to Seattle on Saturday, but the travel person for her organization is warning her about possible impacts from a pilots strike? We did some googling but could only find that BA pilots and pilots for a small French airline are or will be striking. Do you know anything about a strike that could impact western US flights by chance?
There was a story here in Denver the other day. Baggage handlers, plane cleaners, that sort on strike, maybe that was it.Denver Post
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:18 PM   #7730
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Thanks guys, looks like there won't be any impact.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:31 AM   #7731
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Thanks! I was thinking the visibility would be worse than that (like when driving: if a small dog or cat is right in front of the vehicle, you wouldn't be able to see it...but it would be visible if it were 5-10 feet in front of the car).

Since you say there is good forward visibility, it makes me wonder how the Air Canada flight proceeded to get so close to the planes sitting on the taxiway.
Some airplanes have very poor forward visibility. The Pitts Special is notorious for it, and it's also a very tricky airplane to land with a tendency to ground loop. There was a pilot in a Pitts around here who landed over an ATR that was lined up on the runway to take off a few years ago.
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Old 07-15-2017, 05:24 PM   #7732
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Some airplanes have very poor forward visibility. The Pitts Special is notorious for it, and it's also a very tricky airplane to land with a tendency to ground loop. There was a pilot in a Pitts around here who landed over an ATR that was lined up on the runway to take off a few years ago.
That's very true, but that's kind of an exotic example. The Pitts is a one seat airplane (there is a two seat model, the S2B) and meant specifically for aerobatic flying.

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Since you say there is good forward visibility, it makes me wonder how the Air Canada flight proceeded to get so close to the planes sitting on the taxiway.
I don't think I actually addressed this question. The reason they were able to get so close is that it can be difficult to pick out stationary airplanes on the ground at night. The only lights on a plane sitting on a taxiway are the position lights (red light on the left wing; green light on the right wing; white light on the tail) and the red rotating beacon. From a distance, these don't stand out at all and can be easy to overlook in the sea of lights in front of you as you approach the airport.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:27 PM   #7733
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A wayward Air Canada pilot did not abort his landing last week until his plane had already overflown an SFO taxiway for a quarter mile, passing a mere 100 feet above the first two of four fully-loaded passenger jets awaiting departure, according to preliminary data from Canadian investigators released Thursday.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/1...sfo-airplanes/

Damn, that was a lot closer than I had though from the initial reports.
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:16 AM   #7734
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Meh planes fly at 500 knots head to head at 1000 feet separation all the time.

Plus even you on the highway drives like 20 feet laterally from oncoming traffic at 70mph.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:49 AM   #7735
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Meh planes fly at 500 knots head to head at 1000 feet separation all the time.

Plus even you on the highway drives like 20 feet laterally from oncoming traffic at 70mph.
100 feet is pretty close to an accident imo. Your point about the highway is, uh, not a helpful analogy. If you weren't joking then think about the time involved to go around in a large airliner where gravity is also working to close that 100-ft gap, versus turning your steering wheel a bit on the road.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:53 AM   #7736
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1000 feet separation when planes are in the right place is one thing. 100 feet separation when planes are in the wrong places (and trending in the wrong direction) is most definitely another.

I'm not sure what the sink rate of a plane is at that point (I'm sure W0X0F can inform us), but I'm guessing it was around 10-15 seconds from complete disaster.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:59 AM   #7737
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Typical descent rate during an approach is 700 fpm (+/-100). It will vary depending on winds and approach speed.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:44 AM   #7738
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but I've loved the SR-71 since elementary school.

https://youtu.be/Lg73GKm7GgI
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:01 PM   #7739
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Yeah, I saw that bit in his book. If you don't have the book, buy it. Lots of cool pictures in it.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:17 PM   #7740
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Yeah, I saw that bit in his book. If you don't have the book, buy it. Lots of cool pictures in it.
I saw on some other forum while searching around that it's out of print and now exorbitantly expensive to get it on eBay, but maybe that was old information.

Update: Just checked Amazon. The cheapest used copy is $409 and no new ones are available. Man, if they do another printing it's going to gut that market.
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Old 07-17-2017, 05:07 PM   #7741
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His printed book is done in extremely limited versions. It comes all nice and boxed up.
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:44 PM   #7742
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but I've loved the SR-71 since elementary school.

https://youtu.be/Lg73GKm7GgI
Can't thank you enough for sharing that video. I've heard the story before, but this was a really well done collection of clips to go along with it. I'm saving this one and sending it on to a bunch of people.
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:53 PM   #7743
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I saw an Omnimax movie in the old Caesars Palace Omnimax theater. IMAX is weak sauce in comparison. Anyway, part of the movie is an SR-71 starting the engines from the exhaust end's view. It looks like a gallon of raw fuel all ignites at once as the engine explodes into life.

Time to go visit the nearby air museum and gawk at the SR-71 parked there.
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:08 PM   #7744
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Time to go visit the nearby air museum and gawk at the SR-71 parked there.
I assume you're talking about the one sitting in the Udvar-Hazy annex of the Air & Space Museum at Dulles airport. That plane flew coast to coast in 68 minutes before making its last landing at Dulles.

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Old 07-18-2017, 04:28 PM   #7745
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but I've loved the SR-71 since elementary school.

https://youtu.be/Lg73GKm7GgI
This is hilarious
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:48 PM   #7746
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I assume you're talking about the one sitting in the Udvar-Hazy annex of the Air & Space Museum at Dulles airport. That plane flew coast to coast in 68 minutes before making its last landing at Dulles.

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I meant for me, which is in the Pima Air Museum in AZ.
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Old 07-18-2017, 06:02 PM   #7747
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I assume you're talking about the one sitting in the Udvar-Hazy annex of the Air & Space Museum at Dulles airport.
I've seen three SR-71s on exhibit, the other two were outside and not well-maintained (Eglin and Huntsville). Udvar-Hazy is elite, everything is indoors and tip-top and if you're in the area it's well worth a side trip.

The one at the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville is practically falling apart it has so much rust (as do most of the outdoor exhibits there).
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Old 07-18-2017, 06:05 PM   #7748
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FWIW if you're on the florida panhandle coast and you only have time for one military musuem, the naval aviation musuem at Pensacola is much nicer than the museum at Eglin. More cool stuff, more stuff indoors, and if you plan ahead you can see the blue angels practice.
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Old 07-18-2017, 06:24 PM   #7749
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I've seen three SR-71s on exhibit, the other two were outside and not well-maintained (Eglin and Huntsville). Udvar-Hazy is elite, everything is indoors and tip-top and if you're in the area it's well worth a side trip.

The one at the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville is practically falling apart it has so much rust (as do most of the outdoor exhibits there).
I was in Huntsville in March and wish I had more time. Only had two and a half hours to see the whole Space and Rocket Center. But I got to see the SR-71 at Udvar-Hazy the same weekend they brought the new shuttle in. And the other shuttle they were moving to New York was mounted on the 747 on the tarmac when I landed at Dulles so I got to see two shuttles in one day and the SR-71. Awesome!

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