Most of it. I've read a ton of discussion about it as well.

Often?

Read their conclusions in the report. You're obviously hinging on some sort of twisting of their words. Please provide the actual quotes so we can decide for ourselves if they suddenly reversed and disagreed with their own conclusions. TYVM.
The 15% is the stutter threshold. Stefanoni ignored alleles above this threshold when she should not have. I quoted this before. She also ignored peaks above 50 RFU which she should not have. In other words she cherry picked. It doesn't change the results as it pertained to Meredith and Raf's profiles but it hides that others may be present.

I was also reading some analysis that mentioned that peaks below 50 were inlcuded with the knife analysis but I was assuming this was referring to non-LCN testing. Are you saying there was none? Maybe I misread that.

It must be disheartening to consistently be corrected by such a moron. Btw, now that you realize there are inner shutters on the window in Filomena's room can you tell us how they ended up with glass embedded in them considering it defies all logic given where the rest of the glass ended up if it was broken from someone inside the room?

Of course it is. Anything arguing against your case is BS, propaganda, shilled paid for, etc. Very credible stance sir.

In my own words it says that we should view this evidence as it pertains to the defendants guilt as wholly unreliable. We should discount it and not consider it.

Easy game.

Not quite. Cliffs of the foregoing:

- They confirmed Raffaele on the clasp. (pg 135)

- Page 145: For the knife, they confirm Amanda on the handle. As regards Meredith on the blade, they say it is Meredith but it isn't blood (Stefanoni had said same), and say it is unreliable because it is LCN DNA and Rome allegedly ran afoul of "international standards." There is no international body which sets these standards, so 'international' in this instance literally means "other countries," primarily American, where LCN is not used rather than Italian or the UK, where they try 10,000 cases per year with it.

C+V should have, in my opinion, evaluated the knife blade within the context of the LCN discipline rather than attack LCN's overall worthiness and from there exclude anything smaller than a standard DNA sample, per US practice.

- Page 146: Bra Clasp: C+V think only 12 loci should have been attributed to Raffaele when Stefanoni counted 16. They therefore consider her interpretation erroneous, but it remains that the 12 agreed-upon loci are "owned" by one in 22-billion people. It's still Raffaele. Then they say you can't rule out contamination, again non-specifically with the "international" bit, without ever going so far as to allege contamination.

My question to you, 239, is:

Why exclude the knife? The knife was clean as a whistle and collected from Raffaele's house. It was the first Kercher item processed after six days of handling other cases. Raffaele lied about how he had stabbed her innocently while cooking to explain her DNA on the knife. With those facts in mind, who cares how small the sample is as long as it is clearly Meredith?

Too busy finishing mega post. Will be in there.

lol nice try. I like how you are now talking about the 15% and 50 RFU number as unrelated. Is this from the same person who is giving you the rest of the information on the DNA because if it is they don't have a clue or they are doing a ****ty job of educating you.

Just because I'm an ass and want to **** with you.

What alleles does Stefaboni ignore?

Are you sure she ignored them and didn't include them?

If we assume you got this wrong and she included them and they should have been ignored what impact does this have on the DNA match?

Yes. They started with a lot of DNA but because they wanted to make this challenging they said **** it lets throw that out and use a tiny amount. LCN DNA is only used when there isn't enough DNA. This is why you shouldn't talk about **** you don't understand.

Yes I'm devastated.

You must be joking. The knife fails on just about every level. First of all it was not clean they found vegetable matter on it which suggests it wasn't cleaned very well at all. You can't explain why it would be at the murder. You can't explain why it would be returned to Raf's house. It made no sense to only take that knife from Raf's. You can't provide any corroborating evidence that anything from the murder was ever in Raf's house. It doesn't fit the imprint on Meredith's bed. It had no blood on it, etc etc.

And to quote my favorite part of the independent expert report.

Yes. They are saying it should be excluded because LCN DNA is not a valid science. Unfortunately for Knox that is not true in Italy. If this trial was happening in the United States the independent reviewer would be correct for every state except New York. In Italy they are wrong.

That's actually not what they are saying. That is the guilter tin foil interpretation.

And again please explain how the knife got to the crime scene and how it got back and why they wouldn't have discarded it with the rest of their bloody clothes and clean up tools?

Ok then please explain what makes it not supported by scientifically validated analysis?

Be specific.

I'm not joking. Rudy was convicted of the same murder without any knife evidence to speak of. That we have anything knife-related in this trial is something of a blessing considering how often murder weapons disappear down ravines and storm drains.

- Carried the knife to Meredith's house. (obv?) Knife wasn't actually Raffaele's but instead came with the apartment he rented, which is inventoried by landlords and could be identified by the landlord as missing.

- DNA but no blood means it's from tissue. Fat, skin, muscle, etc.

- Raffaele said her DNA should be on the blade. What is your explanation for this and why should it not be counted as evidence against him?

- Amanda was "very worried" about the knife.

- Stephanoni corrected C+V and said it was talc particles from the gloves, but if it was not clean, as you say, and contamination is achieved very easily, should there not have been Raffaele DNA on his own knife either by prior contact or from mingling with his other knives?

- With the acknowledgement of Amanda and Raffaele that the knife is very important and the fact that two knives had to be used as indicated by the injuries to Meredith, and it is in fact compatible with her biggest injury, whether "the" knife matches the bed print is rather beside the point, isn't it.

This is excluding the DNA analysis itself. So where exactly does it fail?

Also 239 don't forget to ask your handler for answers to these.

What alleles does Stefaboni ignore?

Are you sure she ignored them and didn't include them?

If we assume you got this wrong and she included them and they should have been ignored what impact does this have on the DNA match?

Henry I don't have a handler. This case has been won. Amanda is free and not going back to an Italian prison. You lost. That being said they show in the report the what she ignored by listing her interpretation next to theirs. Surely you've been over it.

I've already said none of this speaks to anything about Meredith and Raf's DNA being there. Not sure what point you're making.

So you were talking out of you ass. It is ok -- it was obvious and now I'm just being mean.

How about I ask the questions. At the time of the testing was Stefanoni's lab certified to do this type of analysis? Please provide a cite with your answer. I know you're big on certification.

I'm also waiting for your window breaking analysis now that you understand there are shutters on the inside of the window.

Once you get around to those perhaps I will craft a lengthy response to how the knife finding was bunk.