So I got a written job offer from else where. Currently I work at a temp job so I'm hourly. I accepted at a pretty low rate for the job type I do. My current temp job offered me a significant raise to reach my salary I accepted at the new place. I really like the people at my current place but my job is temp and I receive no benefits. I really like the new position I got offered for elsewhere but I'm also kinda unhappy with the salary, do you guys think it's wise to renegotiate since I received this new offer at my current place?

I did a google search and a lot of the responses said it's not a good idea. What do you guys think?

Place of new offer is a small CPA firm, will be working more hours.

terrible idea, you have zero leverage in this spot.

If the job you accepted gives you benefits and other things that the temp job doesn't it seems better and benefits are monetarily beneficial to you.

Also your current job is a temp position, do you know when the temp aspect of it will end/are you subbing for someone who is away on leave?

If you have a full time gig locked up that will pay you the same as what your current position does (now that they offered you are raise to match) as well as benefits and full time don't do anything to **** that up.

True, however, as I said before the pay is on the pretty low scale of the job type offered. Additionally, I have to work more hours during the first 4 months of the year. I'll be working for a small CPA firm.

take the new job

don't think it's close

take new job AND while working at new job LOOK for new new job

that's how you play the game that today's penny pinching employers STARTED

Not a bad idea, I think I'm gonna do that lol. In all seriousness, I need some stability in my career and well, I need the experience to be honest. Maybe after 6 months I can renegotiate to something higher after they see my value.

Maybe, but I've gone from $14/hr to $35/hr over 5 yrs by changing jobs yet still doing the same work. I would have never been able negotiate my wage to this level...although its surprising how quickly each company I left was so eager to offer a raise after I decided to leave.

Negotiate pay before you accept?

Yea I kinda panicked because i was desperate and I didn't want to lose the offer. Lesson learned tho.

What do you do?

I find negotiating wages without having another job lined up difficult. The fear of becoming unemployed works in the employer's favour because they can sense this. It takes skill and a lot of confidence to be good at this.

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I'm thinking after a year or two, once I gain some experience I can look elsewhere for higher pay. I also passed the CPA exam, so once I get my license in about 2 years or so, I can start making a lot more money.

Indeed. The experience is invaluable and you need to stay with a job long enough to gain this experience. But, another reason I decided to change jobs instead of just negotiating pay is because I could gain a lot more experience a lot quicker this way than just becoming comfortable after learning everything there was to know at each job. This isn't true for every profession obv, but it is for mine. Also, experience trumps references in my line of work which might not be true for you. In fact, I've never given references for any new job.

Take the new job, and if you do well, ask for a raise after 6 months. If they say no, start looking for another new job. Next time you change jobs, resolve before you even start looking that you will not let the current employer make a counter-offer to keep you. In 10 years' time, you will look back at this as one of the best decisions you ever made.

I was making $48k back in 1999 in Chicago as somebody who just graduated college, passed the CPA exam and wasn't yet licensed.

Something doesn't jive with your story; it seems to be lacking pertinent details.

If you like the current job and people so much why don't you just use your current offer as leverage with them? Say that the new people are offering better salary and full-time and benefits, etc. Tell current job that you would really like to stay because you dig it so much there but that this new gig right now is where you have to go to get benefits and full-time status which is important to you.

If current job can pull it off you may be able to get a better position at that place. It happens.

When I was a kid, my Dad got a job offer with a large pay-increase that was going to require us to move about 1,000 miles away. I was 16 years old. Would have been weird. He told his company he had accepted with the new place. The company responded by giving him an even bigger raise.

I seriously don't think he was looking to turn it into a bidding war for his work. He truly believed he was moving our family up there for this "too good to pass up" offer...and then was stunned when the company he was working for showed how much they really wanted him to stay.

If you are going to use it as leverage at your current job you have to be careful to do so tactfully of course. Say all the right things about how much you like everyone there but that you have higher aspirations of full-time, etc. Directly asking, "can you do better than that?" makes you look cheesy. But telling them that you haven't officially accepted yet but are about to might be okay.

I agree with the others that going back to your new offer and telling them that they NOW have to do better is probably not a good idea. If you do end up working there you should probably suck it up and go at the offer you had already agreed to. And, as said, be on the lookout for a new new job...and maybe try to get a better deal at your new place in a few months.

I've never asked for a raise after 6 months. If I haven't been offered a raise within 9 months of starting a new job, I interpret it as code for time to start looking for a new job. Either they are a cheap company which means I don't want to work for them, or they don't appreciate me and/or my work which means I don't want to work for them.

I agree with this.

Ummm, some people have better jobs than others?

Nice silly brag though (although not exactly a monster brag)

Not a brag... I also agree with this. My friend just passed his CPA and is making like 60k to start so.. yeah

Agreed, my basic rule of thumb is never get into a wage negotiation unless you are prepared to walk

first, well done on your career. But for the OP to just think it's time and negotiating technique that was responsible solely for the compensation would be disingenuous. I would have to assume you not only got better at your tasks, but now can complete them more efficiently with fewer mistakes than when you were a green grad. Because that's really the basis for most compensation plans, ability to get the job done, and that does come from experience.

So I took the offer, gonna reevaluate after a year, hopefully at a review or something I'll voice my opinion and we'll go from there. Thanks guys.

Congrats OP

You should re-evaluate as soon as you've shown them you're worth more than they are paying you. Letting the amount of time it takes the earth to orbit the sun to determine the pace of your salary negotiations always seemed lol to me.

Of course, they may say 'no,' in which case you find out what more they are looking for and etc and you're ahead of the game because you didn't wait as long to find out.

If they pay everyone at the same level the same regardless of effort and output, act accordingly. Also, then you know you work for idiots.

If there's one thing I've learned in business/real world, it's that Squeaky Wheel Gets the Grease. Obvs it helps if you are a top performer.

If you are a below average performer it is more like Squeaky Wheel Gets Fired Or Transferred To A Crappy Department

Yeah, we'd all like to think that, but it's more like 40% they get better pay/title/benefits, 30% no change, 30% told to improve IRL.

Assuming they aren't below-avg in sucking up, that is. I've noticed a high correlation btw mediocre performers with long years at one shop, and ability to schmooze higher-ups.