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Old 06-01-2012, 01:58 PM   #76
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sooo, airlines in canada are probably a no go, and that goes double for the usa probably?

is he going to car/bus down to the states then to mexico first and then do w/e?
He apparently landed in France last week.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...tudent-lin-jun
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:13 PM   #77
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He apparently landed in France last week.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...tudent-lin-jun
last week? wth lol

what is the timeline of this story?
when was the vid first released, when the police started asking for help looking for him ect???

edit: oh some of it is in that article ;o
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:14 PM   #78
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Pro move to tell everyone how you're going to disappear before you disappear.
Unless your plan is to actually not follow the guide you set out. The police covered the bus depot with his picture but now apparently he is in France already.

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Reading about this now on wiki, what a ****ed up story. How could they do that to her own sister ffs?
If you listen to the tapes it is pretty ****ed up. I read the transcript of one of the tapes after the death of the sister with them having sex and it was just so messed up. It became clear that she was as much-- if not more-- responsible but the Crown just did everything possible to not punish her. They had the option of having her put away for life and passed.
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Apparently this Psychopath is back in Canada.

http://www.news1130.com/news/nationa...back-in-canada
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:36 PM   #80
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Re: 1 lunatic 1 icepick video

This article has some more info on his past, too.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:40 PM   #81
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last week? wth lol

what is the timeline of this story?
when was the vid first released, when the police started asking for help looking for him ect???

edit: oh some of it is in that article ;o
The whole thing is ****ed. The murder apparently happened the night of the 24th and the video was posted on the 25th. Then a human foot was delivered to the Conservative Party's HQ in Ottawa on tuesday the 29th (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...-party-office/). The same day the police found a headless torso in a suitcase outside Magnotta's apartment in Montreal and they issued a warrant for his arrest yesterday (http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...060/story.html).



On a another note, here is his audition to participate in a gay reality show

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Old 06-01-2012, 02:48 PM   #82
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could i have an amateur psychology take on the fact that the cat torturing videos upset me way more than the icepick video?
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I'm the same way with animals and children. they are defenseless, I don't think its a strage or unusual attitude to have.
Basically this.

The more defenseless the victim, often the more visceral the reaction. We're essentially desensitized the fact that people kill people (adults) for a variety of reasons; most people are even willing to admit that there are circumstances under which they would kill another adult.

The helpless, though, like children and animals (particularly domesticated pet animals) are essentially taboo in terms of our perceiving them as probable victims - short of some sort of horrific kill one child to save 1000 scenario, most people aren't going to be able to fathom a circumstance under which they could ever justify the murder of a creature that is essentially helpless and of no threat to the adult perpetrator.

You see the same reaction when you talk about sexual assault victims - while sad, everyone acknowledges that adult females are at risk for being raped (simply by virtue of the fact that they are sexually mature and most often the target of sexual violence). However, if the victim is a girl, or God forbid an infant, the reaction is even more negative.

I have to admit the curiosity got the better of me this time, and I found and watched most of the icepick video (I didn't watch the end because, frankly, it just wasn't that interesting anymore). I'm not sure what's more disturbing - the video or the fact that I didn't find it particularly bothersome. There's really not much blood, and the picture quality is poor enough that some of the more graphic details are obscured.

I doubt I would have made it past ten seconds if the victim was alive and screaming, though.

If he's caught (and doesn't commit suicide), reading about this particular individual's pathology might make for a fascinating read. The blend of sadism and exhibitionism isn't necessarily unique, per se, but nobody is born this ****ed up.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:53 PM   #83
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If you listen to the tapes it is pretty ****ed up. I read the transcript of one of the tapes after the death of the sister with them having sex and it was just so messed up. It became clear that she was as much-- if not more-- responsible but the Crown just did everything possible to not punish her. They had the option of having her put away for life and passed.
There are tapes? I tried to find the videos before I got to the part of the Wiki page that said they had been destroyed.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:54 PM   #84
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cool, ty.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:20 PM   #85
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There are tapes? I tried to find the videos before I got to the part of the Wiki page that said they had been destroyed.
Some of the tapes were played in open court so they are part of the official record.

If you scroll to the 09-14-2006, 06:00 PM post http://www.wackbag.com/archive/index.php/t-51635.html it has the text of the tape I was thinking about.

The tapes were a major issue when I was in law school because the police missed them despite completely searching the house. Bernardo the directed his lawyer to get them. This put the lawyer in a very difficult ethical position -- are the tapes of a murder covered by lawyer - client privilege? With respect to the actual official murder tapes I do believe they were destroyed after the trial but at the time there was rumors of other copies existing and they would occasionally surface in the Buffalo area. This was pre-internet and pre-digital recording so it didn't spread much and any copies that existed are likely gone now.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:38 PM   #86
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I would take the under on 3 weeks he is caught.

10 days is a better over/under. It is only a matter of time until he is on a camera within enough reaction time for the police to grab him.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:16 PM   #87
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That is pretty messed up. Not watching the video. Saw some parts of the hammer thing and it haunted me for weeks. Not making the same mistake twice.

I too am actually more upset about the cat stuff than the human, which I know might sound weird but it's very true. I don't know why it is, SGT RJ expressed it well I think. The more innocent the victim, the more pissed I am (for example, i'm always massively pissed at people bullying handicaped or old people, more than at random weirdos).

Hope they find him soon, because he's on a roll now and I think it's just gonna accelerate. And with the fear of getting caught, he will probably reduce the time between his next sadistic fix.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:24 PM   #88
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just hearing these stories are enough to haunt me for at least a few days. Yesterday I did some day labor at a tree site. Guy I was working with told me a brief story about a 6 year old who accidentely was fed thru a woodchipper, 2 other siblings witnessed the scene, this happened a couple months ago and just a few towns over. Can't get those kind of visuals out of my head. world can be ****ed up
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:37 PM   #89
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That is pretty messed up. Not watching the video. Saw some parts of the hammer thing and it haunted me for weeks. Not making the same mistake twice.

I too am actually more upset about the cat stuff than the human, which I know might sound weird but it's very true. I don't know why it is, SGT RJ expressed it well I think. The more innocent the victim, the more pissed I am (for example, i'm always massively pissed at people bullying handicaped or old people, more than at random weirdos).

Hope they find him soon, because he's on a roll now and I think it's just gonna accelerate. And with the fear of getting caught, he will probably reduce the time between his next sadistic fix.
I understand what you mean. I heard there was some guy who had butchered another human and mailed the body parts, and my first reaction was curiosity, not horror.

I heard that the same guy had previous sealed two kittens in a vacuum bag and suffocated them, and all I could picture was my own cat being tortured and my stomach turned.

We're just used to hearing about people torturing/killing/maiming other people, and on some level we even understand it. We can conceive of a reason why someone might want to kill another person (jealousy, lust, vengeance), although the more sadistic and over the top the killing, the less we can understand the motivation.

But since animals (or children) don't typical inspire those "logical" motives, it somehow seems more horrifying and more purely evil to torture/maim/kill them.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:39 PM   #90
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So is the vid a fake?
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