I was looking at poker books on Amazon and I came across the listing for this upcoming book. The writers alone make it look interesting.

http://www.amazon.com/Raisers-Edge-T...7196697&sr=1-1

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This book is a collaboration between ElkY (Bertrand Grospellier), Tysen Streib, Tony Dunst, and me. It concentrates on LAG and hyper-LAG styles of play in NLHE tournaments- how to implement them and defend against them. It is replete with math-based equilibrium strategies and numerous actual hand examples (mostly from ElkY's tournaments). This is not a book for beginning players. It should be released before the end of June and I think you should be able to order it through the 2+2 store. Mike consistently gives great service in getting books into the hands of poker players expeditiously upon release.

Lee

Sounds great. Can't wait. I loved Kill Everyone.

Do you feel your three books (Kill Phil, Kill Everyone, and Raiser's Edge) serve as a trilogy and can/should be read as such?

You need to listen to the song by Tommy Angelo "Raisers Edge"

Very good.

I preordered through the LVAdvisor store. Pretty good deal. $19.99 + s&h.

http://www.shoplva.com/collections/p...s/raisers-edge

ChaosReigns,

These three books were not written as a trilogy. Each was written by a different set of authors. Kill Phil targeted inexperienced tournament players and focused on math-derived principles of long-ball poker as a way of leveling the playing field against better players.

Kill Everyone was written to help readers understand advanced concepts of tournament play, such as fold equity, fear equity, prize pools and equities, bubble play, and optimal strategies when short-stacked at various stages of the tournament, including heads-up play. It was not a direct extension of KP, but I think it would be helpful for a beginner to have read KP (and HOH 1 & 2) prior to reading KE. However, for players already at the intermediate or advanced levels, or who have already read HOH, reading KP before KE would not, imo, be necessary.

The Raiser's Edge is based on analysis of current trends in NLHE tournaments and covers topics not covered in KE and concentrates on the loose aggressive, and hyper-loose aggressive styles. ElkY (Bertrand Grospellier) is the lead author (if you are not familiar with him, at age 30 he has won $7,500,000 in live tournaments alone), and presents his way of looking at the game using specific hand examples from actual tournament situations to emphasize his thought processes, backed up by solid math analysis by Tysen. Since different topics are covered, and since, in my view, RE is more complex than KE, it would be better to have read KE and understood the concepts before reading RE, but not absolutely essential.

Sounds awesome.

ElkY is a beast!

I know they were not written as a trilogy and that they were written by different groups although you are a common denominator among all the groups. I was asking, and you answered, if they could be treated as a trilogy. And a very nice answer it was.

Will there be a Kindle edition?

What is Bond18's contribution to the book?

Hi Everyone:

This book was sent to us for possible publication, but at the time we couldn't take on another project. However, I did do a quick review of the manuscript and it appears to contain a lot of good information.

Best wishes,
mason

Hopefully you, or someone from 2plus2, can do a review once it is out.

My understanding is that the kindle edition will be released about the same time as the paperback in 2-3 weeks. However, it will obviously not have the color charts that are included in the paperback which make the charts easier to follow.

Regards,

Lee

Tony Dunst (Bond 18) is a very significant contributor to this work. Although all authors contributed to all chapters, Tony is the primary author of several chapters, bringing an understanding of both live and online tournaments and expounding upon the differences and adjustments to make from online to live, plus insights on how to play relative stack sizes, amongst other topics. Tony not only has a great understanding of changes that have occurred in tournament poker, but is able to express and analyze well, as exemplified in his commentary in the Raw Deal segment of the WPT television shows.

Regards,

Lee

Have ordered FieryJustice's book but it appears I will have to order this one too...looks awesome.

Getting ready for tournament variance to increase even further as even the fish start to become hyperLAG after following these books!

This thread has prompted me to go back and reread Kill Phil and Kill Everyone in anticipation of Raiser's Edge. I am going to order the Kill Phil cards and then pass the book and cards on to a new player.

Fans of Kill Everyone will not be disappointed. Plus the additions of ElkY and Tony bring some new views and strategies to LAG play. I'm very happy with the content and I'm glad to hear Mason is too!

Tysen

I can see the book is currently available on amazon dot com but it isn't on the uk site yet. Any idea when you will be able to order it from amazon uk.

Also could we see a TOC?

Sorry but I have no idea when amazon.uk will have availability for RE.

This is an issue between Amazon and the publisher.

Regards,

Lee

This looks very promissing...

Ordered it yesterday.

Just ordered mine as well! Can't wait