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07-20-2011, 10:26 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,222
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
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Originally Posted by PlaQ
Hi Jonathan,
I just want to drop in to congratulate you on this great book.
I've read it twice now and I really wished this book would had been available when I started with tournament play, I wouldnt have a lot of my bad, nittish tendecies then.
Can't wait for the second part.
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Im glad you liked it. Being a nit usually isnt good. Im glad it has helped you break out of the nit shell. Good luck!
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08-03-2011, 09:00 AM
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#122
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stranger
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
Hi Jonathan,
I'm interested in getting a copy of your books, but have been wondering how the books compare to the video series. Are the strategies the same ?
Thanks
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08-08-2011, 06:34 PM
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#123
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veteran
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,222
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
The strategies are basically the same although they are in a format that is structured for reading, which means it will be more like a text book than a video that explains whatever concepts come up in the video.
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08-12-2011, 11:22 PM
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#124
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: NZ
Posts: 1,672
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
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Originally Posted by PokerYank
This thread put this book on my buy list.
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Ordering very soon, excited!
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08-13-2011, 10:11 AM
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#125
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enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 92
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
I'm VERY excited as well... will be placing order today for the Kindle!
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10-25-2011, 11:14 AM
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#126
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: 2+2 land
Posts: 969
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
Just finished reading this one and I loved it!
Got 3rd in an mtt the next day for a nice cash (prob conincidence but the concepts taught were implemented)
I need volume 2 asap!
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11-17-2011, 03:36 PM
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#127
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adept
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N.W England
Posts: 863
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
Nice one Johnathan.
Actually first read vol 1 as a library book.
Its simply the best book for MTTs I have read, it takes you though very many spacific situations, and explains the theories very well.
I have since bought vol 1 and pre ordered vol 2.
No doubt in my mind that my play will improve (needs to) by reading these books.
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11-18-2011, 03:59 PM
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#128
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enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 90
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
W/o using the search function do we have a date for volume 2. I am ordering a kindle fire today and am looking to add to my ebook collection!
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11-21-2011, 04:52 PM
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#129
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centurion
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 136
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
Really felt I got alot out of the first book.
Will volume 2 be available on kindle? (as it doesn't seem to be available for pre-order on it at the moment)
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11-22-2011, 06:31 PM
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#130
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Czech Republic - Prague
Posts: 262
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
Getting this book for christmas. Didnt read a single complaint about this book, so hopefully it will be nice reading. I miss some good MTT material for modern online poker. Think this is it
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12-03-2011, 02:58 AM
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#131
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 563
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
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Originally Posted by FieryJustice
I think Every Hand Revealed by Gus Hansen is pretty good, although he is clearly wrong about a few concepts.
Someone asked if my book covers sngs and the answer is "not really." There are quite a few situations that come up in sngs that are mentioned but winning at sngs takes a totally different strategy than mtts, which is my book's main topic.
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What is your book Collection top 10 on your shelf John?
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12-04-2011, 07:22 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Muskegon, Michigan, USA
Posts: 3,588
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
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Originally Posted by MinusEV
What are you basing this on?
If these economics are so simple, how come hardly any other comparable book out there follows this model?
Yes, 'some people' will be happy to buy it at that price. That does not mean it's a good price and one that will give the most profit overall.
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Basic economics. There is nothing that makes a car "worth" $40,000. It is worth 40K if enough people will pay that much to make it reasonable for the company to keep producing it.
If the car is very popular and there is a waiting list, the car is really "worth" more than 40K, and dealers will raise the price accordingly. If there are not many takers at 40K, then the dealers or the manufacturer will need to adjust by lowering the price, throwing in more free options, or whatever.
Supply and demand factors eventually create an equlibirum price that appeals to both buyers and sellers.
Last edited by Poker Clif; 12-04-2011 at 07:26 PM.
Reason: Sentence clarity. No significant content change.
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12-05-2011, 06:08 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Don't trust men who walk with canes
Posts: 6,136
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
Basic economics. There is nothing that makes a car "worth" $40,000. It is worth 40K if enough people will pay that much to make it reasonable for the company to keep producing it.
If the car is very popular and there is a waiting list, the car is really "worth" more than 40K, and dealers will raise the price accordingly. If there are not many takers at 40K, then the dealers or the manufacturer will need to adjust by lowering the price, throwing in more free options, or whatever.
Supply and demand factors eventually create an equlibirum price that appeals to both buyers and sellers.
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Not sure why this needs to get rehashed after 7 months, but no - this particular debate had little to do with 'basic economics'.
We all know the basic supply and demand theories and there's no need to drag yet another car-analogy into this to explain them. It wasn't a debate about whether or not people should price their product based on what gives the highest return, it was a debate about what was a sensible pricing model for the Kindle version.
The question is whether or not pricing the kindle version significantly higher than the paperback makes sense from a revenue making standpoint. I don't think it does - the pricing of most other Kindle versions seems to indicate that not many others do either. Even this one now has a price that is comparable to the paperback version.
Last edited by MinusEV; 12-05-2011 at 06:17 AM.
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12-08-2011, 05:43 PM
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#134
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Medicine Hat
Posts: 1,334
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
Just curious where you can preorder volume 2 from. Thanks and love the first book.
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12-15-2011, 10:39 PM
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#135
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grinder
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
Posts: 585
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Re: Secrets of Professional Tournament Poker by Jonathan Little
Jonathan gave me a copy of his book and I just finished it. He did a great job. This is almost the exact strategy I've been playing for thirty years. I assume he came to the same conclusions independently: TAG but LAG if it suits the table, same betsizing in similar situations with different hands, routine continuation betting, picking up pots against weak players.
I was curious about Jonathan's hand choices when playing short-stacked because he has much more experience playing sit n gos than I do. It looked the same as mine.
I only had three small suggestions. (People give me poker books to review all the time and I average over 50 edits.)
1. On page 24 he recommended using pokerstove to compare odds for standard poker hand matchups. I agree, but since this is supposed to be a bible for tournament players he could have made it more self-contained by having a table here with some typical preflop and on the flop matchups.
Preflop: two overcards vs pair; one overcard vs pair, pair over pair, AJ vs KQ.
Postflop: flush draw with zero, one, or two overcards vs pair; board paired vs overpair; some straight draws combinations; board paired vs higher pair.
2. On page 25, I stared for 30 seconds at the sentence that read in part, "if you raise 7-2o in first position." At first I thought it was a typo and he meant you raise to 720. Then I realized he was using the usual convention of a small o to mean offsuit. I don't know if this stumped anyone else but me, but in books this convention isn't used much (as opposed to forums) without a footnote to mention it. Usually, I just use suit symbols in my writing.
3. On page 259, when he discusses the ineffectiveness of the Stop-and-Go play, I didn't feel he stressed the main problem with the play: normally when it "works" because you bet out after the flop and your opponents folds and you're silently high-fiving yourself in triumph, your opponent has folded exactly the time when he has nothing and you are a huge favorite and you would have rather had him get his chips in with you preflop.
Anyway, I definitely endorse this book. If you play as he recommends, the only thing that will stop you being a top player is good judgment. Unfortunately, this is what separates the best players from others no matter what system they play.
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