I prob shouldnt be telling you this but.... take it from former devout hoh player with who has probably played well over 20,000 micro and mid stake mtts with a paltry 75% roi before reading these books....you NEED to get these books if you want insight into the LAG style that can generate the big stack(s) neccesary to dominating deep stacked and shallow formats

literally days after reading Vol 1 I was so fired up to play I threw 50 bucks online w Lock poker to try the new method - mind you this was after not having played online poker for over 2 years, or a full field tournament live or otherwise for the same period of time. Actually thats not entirely true...I had put a few bucks on another site and lost it all within a few hours, and deciding I was going to brush up on my skills, leading me to amazon where I researched all the tournament books and not unsuprisingly it was well rec'vd so I purchased vols 1 and 2.

anways long story short...almost immediately after reading vol 1 ...boomswitch I knock out the third little $5 tourney I entered as a dominating chipleader from 40 players down to the final table, I win the sunday $10K guaranted ribeye on merge for $1800 plus a bunch of other scores which net me a nice little bankroll (plus a %200 percent roi or something ridiculous) that Im planning to roll up and take to Vegas next week and see what I can knock out at the WSOP (assuming lock comes up with my money which I withdrew over a month a go in anticipation....cashouts are frigging stressfull (fingers crossed), but thats another story )

so all in all my answer to you is they are well worthis, I would pay double or triple... sh*t 10x what the cover price is because the books will pay for themselves many times over in the hands of almost any level of serious poker player, willing to apply themselves to becoming better.

I would say this is a must have series of books with cutting edge information and tactics for the current climate of mid to high stakes poker not unlike harringtons books were in their heyday, basically unless you already know what is in these books you are a few steps if not miles behind the serious player who HAS read them. Amen

Got this today, ready to read and study on holiday 8-)

I've read Volume 1 and am about two-thirds through Volume 2. TONS of good stuff. After finishing Volume 2, I plan to let it all percolate in my subconscious for a bit and then go back to page one and read both again. And again.

Minor quibble: perhaps a bit too much emphasis on large buy-in tournaments; the vast majority of us don't play that high.

Added bonus: oddly, reading it seems to have helped my live LHE game too.

(FWIW, I'm 56 and more laggy than many of my opponents seem to realize.)

I wonder if you'd think the same if you didn't coincidentally go on a retarded heater after reading the book. Unless you somehow think your results are sustainable, or even relevant?

IMO anyone who recommends a book because they won a couple of tourneys after reading it doesn't understand variance.

Is available from http://www.dandbpoker.com in epdf and epub formats.

Jonathan is top 15 or so right now in the 2500 NL event with about 230 left. I really hope he wins this.

well maybe you missed the part abou how I hadnt played a tournament in over two years but your point is taken, and while you're are here lurking at 2+2 whining about posts you dont like reading, I'll be in Las Vegas at the World Series of Poker next week with my newfound tournament skillset to see if my 'retarded heater' is still running

I started playing poker a little less than a year ago. I did pretty good at cash, but I like tournaments more, however my tournament results were not good. Both of Jonathan's books were great in helping my game. For some reason, I decided to go out to the WSOP and played in event #2. I got knocked out right before dinner, and was not happy with the way I finished, so I decided to go back two weeks later. I contacted Jonathan about some coaching, and we met the morning of the $1500 I played in. I felt like I played great, and went out on a horrible beat in level 8 when I got it all in on the flop with a straight and the other guy hit runner runner flush. I played the 1K the next day and cashed in 204th. Went back the next weekend and finished 98th in the $1500. Both books, and coaching if you get the chance, are well worth it. It also helps that I am one of those middle aged white guys Jonathan referenced, and can get use the nitty image to my advantage.

So are you saying 200% ROI is sustainable? Is your brag about being in Vegas meant to somehow reflect on the book's contents?

Because what I see is a book thread, and your review is essentially "I went on a sick heater after reading this therefore the book is good". And your reply to my pointing it out? That you hadn't played a tourney in 2 years and you're going to Vegas.

How is any of this related to the book's contents?

dude, drop 25$ and find out if the book is any good for yourself, you strike me as the type of person that no matter what I say you will have plenty to complain about so I'm not gonna waste my time, I am an established player that picked up plenty from the series, results notwithstanding, if that doesn't help you, then there is nothing I can do about it kid, good luck.

I am glad you guys are applying yourself and taking the steps to become great players. I am glad my books and other training materials have been helpful.

I have actually been writing down basiclly every hand I have played in all the nlhe events so I have material for Volume 3, which is probably going to be a ton of hand examples plus a few other things I have learned since Vol 2 came out. Let me know if you guys have any suggestions on other topics to be sure to include.

A review should be about your impressions of the content, not how lucky you got after reading the book. That's my point. The fact that you don't seem to get that is pretty damn sad.

Also, I ain't your kid, buddy.

Just bought the book, will order volume 2 in a week. Thank you, looking forward to it.

Also, I am a US player..which site is the best for online MTT tournaments? I am looking to put 500 dollars on and play 25 dollar MTT's. Please PM me your answer

Hey Jonathan,

I've read volume 1 of your book which I feel is really good. I have a quick question relating to cbetting. In your book you basically advocate cbetting 2/3 pot with a high frequency.

I've also read Raiser's Edge recently and in that book they advocate a different cbetting strategy. Basically checking back a lot of flops in position and making delayed cbets often, especially on paired boards or Axx flops.

What;s your take on this? Is the difference here in the buy-in each book is aimed at? Please don't be offended when I say I feel like your book is for tournaments under $150 whereas RE seems to be aimed at very high buy in MTT's and so they may face a lot more resistance on flops with aggro players c/r often.

Also have you read RE?

Thanks

I have read raiser's edge. As stacks get shorter, you can cbet a smaller amount than 2/3 pot. I generally bet much smaller as stacks get shorter. As for not cbetting, in the higher stake games, you will find yourself facing a turn and river bet often if you do this whereas in a small stake game, people will bet the turn with their value hands and check the turn with their air hands. My book is geared towards higher buyin tournaments where people do not play super straightforward and poorly. If you think your opponent's are bad enough to play straightforward all the time, feel free to cbet less often.