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Old 06-16-2009, 09:19 AM   #1
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Review of SSNLHE

Just received Ed Miller's Ebook, Ed personally sent it after a time zone problem over the pre-order price. Ed's customer service aside, his book is "the real deal" for 6max. At 304 pages, the book manages to cover 1-2$ 6max from A to Z, with an order that emphasizes a "From the Button" approach to the game instead of a from UTG approach. Essentially, instead of focusing on playing tight up front and opening your range as you approach the button, Ed focuses on the button and the importance of stealing first. The book is much, much more logically structured than most of the other poker books I've read, not just in the order of its subjects but on the depth of the material and the levels it thinks on. I've made it thru' half of the book so far, and while as a seasoned mid stakes player I don't find it ground breaking, I still find myself constantly nodding my head and agreeing with his analysis and observations. Even if the material doesn't take you to the next level, and I think for the majority of readers it will, it has to be the most well spoken, well thought out book on the subject of poker I've read in recent memory.

It's a great read, and I can't wait to finish the second half of the book. Easily worth the pre-order price, and I wouldn't have regretted paying the full price for it if I had to (thanks again Ed).
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:24 AM   #2
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Just received Ed Miller's Ebook
Rumor has it that he has a couple of coauthors.

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Old 06-16-2009, 09:51 AM   #3
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Do you know if it allows the purchaser one printing?
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:03 AM   #4
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Do you know if it allows the purchaser one printing?
As far as I can tell you can print as many as you want.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:20 AM   #5
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Lets see how long thread lasts before it gets deleted.

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Old 06-16-2009, 10:22 AM   #6
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Do you know if it allows the purchaser one printing?
It's just a standard PDF with a password so you can print it.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:51 AM   #7
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bought it at the pre-order-price and now read the first 50 pages. it seems to be well structured and a very decent read until now and i am curios how i feel after i read the full book. i play NL25 SH at ftp and stars and in the past i struggled every time, when i tried to go up to NL50 SH. i hope with reading and working with this book, i will succeed the next time i try it.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:54 AM   #8
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Lets see how long thread lasts before it gets deleted.
I think it depends if people what people write about the book. If they post reviews, discuss the poker in the book, and maybe even discuss any issues in downloading, etc., the thread probably won't be deleted or closed. Discussing non 2+2 books has always been acceptable. Soliciting sales is an entirely different matter. Therefore, if posters keep the thread mostly about the poker in the book I assume it will stay.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:06 AM   #9
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It's just a standard PDF with a password so you can print it.
Yeah but its 300+ pages so be prepared for a hefty folder.
I'm about 60 pages in and it's well written and I like the structure so far, looking forward to getting into the heavier strategy content (hopefully) in the rest of the book.

Will post back a quick review when I'm done.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:11 AM   #10
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I've only got as far as page 80 so far, but I do like the typical Miller (Mehta & Flynn) writing style.

The 'Stealling Blinds' section seems like a good summary of Ed's 'Blind Stealing' series on stoxpoker (how many hours of video was that again!) and 'Barreling' would be his 'Big Hands, Big Pots' videos.

This is also my first e-book purchase. What I like is I have been able to take a sneak look now and again (up to page 80!) while sat here at work. Hey - it looks like I'm working!

But I do wanted a printed copy that I can take with me anywhere, and having a hardcopy I can scribble on seems like a good idea too. So it looks like I'll be working late again. Well, at least until there is no-one around to see what is coming off the printer.

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Old 06-16-2009, 01:10 PM   #11
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As long as the thread stays on track as a content discussion, it stays. Anything else will be deleted. Please don't comment on the content unless you have read it or are commenting on content/concepts posted here.
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:53 PM   #12
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What's the title of the book and how do I purchase it?
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:10 PM   #13
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What's the title of the book and how do I purchase it?
I'm not sure if links are allowed so I will just suggest you google "small stakes no limit holdem" to find where to buy.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:14 PM   #14
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I'm not sure if links are allowed so I will just suggest you google "small stakes no limit holdem" to find where to buy.
Found it. Go GOOOOOOOOGLE
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:26 PM   #15
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I purchased the book and did a quick read through of part 1. While the analogy was good and it served as a good intro, the beginning really isn't anything earth shattering (I wasn't expecting it to be though). The bulk of the book seems to be Part 2 (beating 200NL), which I did skim through and it looks pretty good. Its full of detailed hand examples illustrating a ton of different concepts. It looks pretty good so far, I can't wait to get into the rest of it.

On a technical note, I wish there was another way for them to protect the book besides sticking a randomly generated password on it. I can already foresee that being a real annoyance given that you have to enter it every single time you open the pdf.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:29 PM   #16
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Finished it, all in all it was a great read. I have a few issues with his examples here and there, but even where I disagree with the author his arguments are still really sound. A lot of the material is derived from Ed's videos, but his moving beyond 1/2 section was really insightful (not that his video material isn't, I've just seen it before).

It was definitely a fast and informative read, I look forward to re-reading it on the train and giving it more in depth study later.

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Old 06-16-2009, 04:28 PM   #17
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The password thing is only a minor annoyance. Just put the book in a folder along with a .txt file. If your password is q1w2e3r4t5y6 or something like that, just have a .txt file called q1w2e3r4t5y6.txt in the same folder.

Right click on that .txt file >> Rename >> copy the q1w2e3r4t5y6 from the name

Then open the book and control-V when it asks for the password rather than retyping a long string of nonsense.
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:11 PM   #18
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Just got through the part on blind stealing and I'm liking the book so far. Huge step up from PNL. No gripes yet (except who is "Dab" as mentioned in the acknowledgments?), but I really hope to get some insightful strategies for postflop like when to float or bluff-raise or when to donk or c/r.
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:55 PM   #19
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Dab is Ed Miller's nickname for his Dad.

I've just skimmed it so far--I like their writing style--and the only flaws I see are the typical ebook shortcomings. However, the four color deck will keep me from those "obv fold" "wtf" "oh, we picked up a backdoor draw" moments that I find really annoying in hand examples.
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:19 PM   #20
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I've got it and have read quite a bit of it already. So far I am VERY impressed. I think this is quickly going to become THE NL book to own. We might have a poker classic on our hands here!
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:09 PM   #21
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I got the book, I pre ordered FTW. Its very good so far (have read 105 pages). Its got some very good concepts and indepth explanation which I personally love. It will most likely take me a good bit to finish reading it and a couple re reads to fully grasp it, but I'm very pleased thus far.
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:43 AM   #22
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I have just finished scanning this and am now reading it in depth.

Its a really well written, comprehensive and practical book. Anyone playing SSNL will get a huge amount from it, and those playing MSNL will probably benefit somewhat (given that it is pretty cheap!).

Its certainly the best "from the ground" up guide to 6max NL, the only weakness would be in basic preflop play but the book assumes you have that down already.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:27 AM   #23
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I have just finished scanning this and am now reading it in depth.

Its a really well written, comprehensive and practical book. Anyone playing SSNL will get a huge amount from it, and those playing MSNL will probably benefit somewhat (given that it is pretty cheap!).

Its certainly the best "from the ground" up guide to 6max NL, the only weakness would be in basic preflop play but the book assumes you have that down already.
Yeah, the book is overly focused on "being the raiser" instead of "being the caller." Perhaps it's for the sake of simplicity, but I think it's worth discussing when and where you should be calling and folding against open raises instead of concentrating on raise here, 3bet there etc.

That's an over simplification, but the book is definitely weighted towards being the aggressor instead of being the caller (handling opponent's aggression is a great chapter tho', especially the bit on double floating as the BB against SB stealers).
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:41 AM   #24
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That's kind of interesting, because Fees 6Max guide suffers from this too. It's like these guys don't buy into the 5-10 rule at all... (which is at the heart of calling vs folding to an early raiser).
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:17 AM   #25
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I like the book very much, another solid text. The emphasis on stealing and thin river betting is very good advice but maybe needs some adjustment as you move away from small/mid stakes. For example, in microstakes no-fold-em games, stealing a wide range is probably not as profitable as just nitting it up; and, conversely, at high-stakes, up against aggressive hand-readers, thin river bets can put you in some difficult spots (not a high-stakes player, my impression from reading forums). Interesting symmetry, there. Overall, great book. Thanks, guys.
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