Quantum Poker by Derric Haynie - Books and Publications

avatar77 · 07-23-2012, 12:31 AM

Has anyone out there read or heard of this book by Derric Haynie?

He's a coach in CardRunners, Synergy Poker and Pokerzion

http://www.sixpeppers.com/

peterpjames · 07-23-2012, 12:46 AM

Ambitious subtitle

MidniteToker · 07-23-2012, 07:58 AM

I always get a bad feeling when someone uses "quantum" as some kind of cutting-edge cool term.

Doc T River · 07-23-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by peterpjames

Ambitious subtitle

Made me think of the line in Princess Bride. Let me 'splain. No, too long. Let me sum up.

avatar77 · 07-23-2012, 09:15 AM

I agree. However, if you look at his site, he has very impressive stats. He also does coaching and released a lot of training videos for other training sites. Unlike a lot of other recent books, he is a real professional.

slowjoe · 07-23-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by avatar77

I agree. However, if you look at his site, he has very impressive stats. He also does coaching and released a lot of training videos for other training sites. Unlike a lot of other recent books, he is a real professional.

Not quite that professional.

His email address bounces:

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slowjoe · 07-23-2012, 01:36 PM

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Not quite that professional.

His email address bounces:

But he shows promise. I mailed his personal address, and he replied within 3 minutes. Shows a level of attention to detail.

ActionDJ · 07-23-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by avatar77

I agree. However, if you look at his site, he has very impressive stats. He also does coaching and released a lot of training videos for other training sites. Unlike a lot of other recent books, he is a real professional.

Hey thanks alot!

It is true the site is rather new and I am still working out the kinks, already fixed the e-mail address problem.

I didn't just use the word quantum to be catchy, there is actually a reason behind it, mainly the fact that I associate decisions in poker similarly to quantum mechanics. Here is my description of Quantum Poker straight from the book:

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Quantum Poker

Quantum Mechanics is a branch of physics that deals with the behavior of matter and its interactions with energy on the scale of atoms and atomic particles. In one particular thought experiment called Schrödinger's cat there is a situation in which a cat left in a box has been dealt a fate of either being alive or dead based on a random event. While the experiment was never done, of course, there was an uncertainty about the state of the cat until it was observed. In poker, we experience this uncertainty all the time when we are trying to figure out our opponents hole cards. There are many different states their hole cards can be in and we will not be sure which hand they have until we observe it. At that moment, the waves of possibilities collapse to particles and become known hole cards. Unfortunately, all relevant (and valuable) decisions are always made before hole cards are exposed, meaning, throughout your decision-making process, you will always be guessing at the state of your opponents hole cards. Until you have seen a hand, it is in a state of uncertainty just like Schrödinger's cat and you can only use observations to narrow down the likelihood of possible hands.

Quantum poker is the ability to completely understand poker by properly dissecting and interpreting all of the possible outcomes of a situation. Imagine a complex puzzle with billions and billions of possibilities, in which, with each step forward, you are able to remove the outer layers of the puzzle to get a clearer understanding of how to solve it. This is what occurs throughout a hand in poker. There are many different starting scenarios and as each player makes their action the near-infinite possibilities collapse onto a much easier set of common situations that you will encounter frequently. Understanding each experience, cataloguing it, and being able to recall it will get you closer to solving the puzzle that is the next hand you play.

avatar77 · 07-23-2012, 02:59 PM

Hi Derric,
thanks for responding and hopping on this thread.

I play mainly live poker (1/2 and 2/5), how relevant is your book to live? Looking at your excerpt, your book seems to be more applicable to online poker.

Care to post the table of contents for your book?

thanks,

ActionDJ · 07-23-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by avatar77

Hi Derric,
thanks for responding and hopping on this thread.

I play mainly live poker (1/2 and 2/5), how relevant is your book to live? Looking at your excerpt, your book seems to be more applicable to online poker.

Care to post the table of contents for your book?

thanks,

I am going to put it up on the site right now.

Doc T River · 07-23-2012, 06:31 PM

I was going to give this book a pass, but your responses in this thread has me rethinking that.

StrtOvR · 07-23-2012, 08:05 PM

Just placed an order - I'll get a review out when I'm done. However, I have to wait for it to be shipped to the UK, and spend some time digesting it, so I'll try my best to get it done as soon as possible.

**verneer** · 07-23-2012, 08:32 PM

I got my copy in the mail today and will post my thoughts as soon as I am done reading. My initial thought is that this is definitely an advanced concept book.

Stefan Stefansson · 07-23-2012, 09:40 PM

Any plans for kindle or other e-book?

I don't do paper anymore.

slowjoe · 07-24-2012, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MidniteToker

I always get a bad feeling when someone uses "quantum" as some kind of cutting-edge cool term.

Yup, usually stuff like "Quantum" signifies bull****.

However, have you read the TOC recently posted? The book includes a section on CardrunnerEV, along with S-bucks, G-bucks, books that were great but are dated, books that are still great. Granted, there is one page on C-EV but that's more than most books.

My mouth is watering for this one.