I believe the LO8 and PLo8 sections are very good and we can continue the study group to discuss these topics as well.
I had archived all previous weeks in the following thread.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=218311

Week 5 Topics -
Limit Omaha eight or better - preflop play and starting hands
Chapter 9
178 - 212
Topics include
Starting Hands
Miracle flop tests
Play from blinds
Blind stealing
Three betting
Loose vs Tight games
Preflop practice situations.

OK, as one would expect there doesn't seem to be much distinction between starting hands that are playable in limit that aren't in pot-limit and vice versa (unless I'm missing something or merely haven't given the matter sufficient thought).

I just seem to get very frustrated sometimes when trying to play limit. Most of the time I sit down, get dealt some decent hands and manage to win some money. I have some Wilson software kicking around in which I make money in like 5 out of 6 sessions playing like a nit against tough competition. The problem is that it would seem on this software package you get dealt slightly better hands than is typical on your average poker site.

Sometimes when I play limit online I start out and finish a given session completely card-dead from start to finish. This often wipes out several winning sessions. If you can't pick up a playable hand, the blinds just kill you in this game, and if you don't play like a nit you'll get destroyed by the people playing real hands. Perhaps I just haven't given it enough of a chance, since I almost immediately switched over to PLO where I am more comfortable ignoring whatever the blinds may or may not be doing to my stack. BTW, if you are playing limit what sort of VPIP #s are you generally looking for?

I'd like to get good at this version and I've actually done well in one of the low buy-in FullTilt limit tournaments, again playing like a super-nit. When I play PLO I see more flops and play some not very good hands, but if you do this at limit you'll get killed because you almost always have some miracle card that could bring in half the pot for you and the bet represents such a small portion of the pot. Perhaps I'm just not approaching the two different versions properly. Sorry for my extreme verbosity, any help would be appreciated.

In pot limit your VPIP should depend on how many players, how deep you are etc.
In limit stack sizes will not matter much.

I find playing limit harder because of lack of control.
An example:
On the flop I have just the backdoor low draw and some weak high potential so I call. I do not pick up low draw on the turn but I keep thinking my high hand is goo enough so I call another bet. I fold on river after two opponents show strength.
In pot limit I am more disciplined.

Few questions to fellow LO8 players.

What is the minimum requirement to peel the flop. Is backdoor flush draw(s) with backdoor low draw good enough to peel the flop for min bet?

I know this thread is all about preflop play but i could not resist asking.

Coming back to preflop play.
I like the way Jeff describes how you want to keep pots multi way in some situations. We need people to donate to your nut low on the flop and turn.

That being said I am not afraid to bet max preflop if my hand is strong enough for value. You have no idea how many people will call in a live game.
You might miss the flop completely if the flop comes KKT when you have AA23 ds. Yes - this happened to me in live game. I check folded flop because there were 6 players playing after 4bet preflop.

No "study group" question yet, but what are your thoughts of the quality of the book and does the ideas lend itself to tournament play as well as cash?

Do you mean in general or specifically for LO8? This book has already paid itself many times over, and I'm playing microlimit LO8. Anyway, perhaps you could browse through this topic - I hardly play tourneys these days, so I can't really answer your question.

A study question: how do you guys feel about raising preflop to build the pot (rather than to knock players out to get the button)? For those of you who've read HEFAP, Seven-Card Stud FAP or Sklansky on Poker/Razz: Is the "Concept borrowed from Razz" applicable to LO8?

Raising for value is very important. Position and stack sizes will vary your decision but I raise and reraise for value.

Limit O8:
I feel in limit it is so much important because position is less valuable.
I 4 bet with AA23 only to fold flop but in the long run it will be profitable.

In pot or no limit I might just call from early position with mediocre-strong hands.

In limit, I think it's important to raise to both build the pot and to try to secure the button from late position, especially with a hand that has A2 suited in it. In pot limit, you're raising with certain hands to build the pot, and with others to try to take it down. The fact that you will often end up having the button is a big plus, as this is post-flop game and position is very important. There's no point in raising with something like A2 suited and a bunch of unconnected garbage, since the sole object of this game is to scoop the entire pot. I tend to be more of a rock, but some people also do this to try to build a trashy sort of image that they play garbage, but this seems to work better in hold 'em.