I realize you are a troll, but this is simply not the case. I would guess most top poker players are not self taught and have read/studied alot. I would also guess most top poker players have a community of people with whom they share ideas and hands. I would guess that very few top poker players are self taught as learning by trail and error is a very inefficient way to learn poker.

Do you know how a player like Durr learned poker? Cant really imagine him reading HOH or just any other 2+2 book. IMO seemed like he just learned the game him self? Or did he all the way throug small-stakes to nosebleeds talk strategy with other players or?

Yeah ... topplayers definately learn on their own

Search for his name and you will see countless strategy posts he has made.

FYP

Higlighted part = Winning in Tough Holdem Games, correct? I play lot of L08, so you're suggesting this will help most people's games, even thou it's a Holdem Book...I'm assuming because they're both limit games?

Any thoughts appreciated mate.

Meh, it was obviously not my intention to compare a price of 1K to a price of 2.5K.

There are two options, first is the author wants to maximize his profits; he most certainly doesn't do that by charging a price of 2500$.
Second option is he wants to be "that guy with the revolutionary book that nobody but the elite players can afford".

I really think option one will get him more profit/fame in the long run and that the high price is only a result of him not understanding how markets work (lol at the diamond analogy). But that's just my opinion and I'm not really willing to argue about that as it's pretty pointless.

bump!

Brian, did u made any review ?

what's his username on 2p2?

I think he mentions it because it contains "combitorics" the theory/strategy component he mentioned in the previous paragraph. I have not read either book so I am not sure...

...but I think, logically, he is refering to the fact that this (combin-w/e) can be helpful in ALL games. But what do I know...

u learn more playing and losing 2,5k i think.

durrrr

I am so shocked that people actually believe durrrr, and every other high stake player, is self-taught. Not close. Not close at all.

What is the % as a matter of interest?

2.4

Just wanted to say that this is a false dichotomy. What I've actually done is option c) charge the appropriate price for the book, which is closer to a substitute for my old coaching program or accompaniment to the new one than a "book." So that people who buy it feel that there is sufficient barrier to entry, which maximizes their value. Meanwhile, I'm pretty close to maximizing my own value - I'd never sell more than 100x at $25, especially not by self-publishing so that I get all the $; it's possible I'd sell more than 10x at $250 or 5x at $500, but frankly based on sales so far it's close and if it's close I'd rather sell for the appropriate price.

Pretty irritating to read bull**** about I don't know about markets or whatever the **** you're trying to say; I didn't do this without thinking through all the options.

I don't give a **** about poker fame, if I could do this without it, I gladly would. And if they wouldn't offer me as much to make videos I'd gladly not make them.

Wish people wouldn't bump this thread for no reason, anyone who is reading it or posting in it and hasn't seen my website or read the book is just blabbering uselessly.

Normally just avoiding the blah blah blah but just drunk enough to say all this and just sober enough to do it coherently.

Edit: come on now wazz, it's 2.5% flat if you don't count the AAA* and AAAA; 2.57% if you do.

Hey, I'm a feel playa

learnedfromtv, please announce what video training site you're joining so I can insta-sign up.

also, please do what baluga did with his book where you signup for rakeback at his website and eventually rake enough for a copy of the book.

Not sure he can due to 2+2 self-promotion policy, but you can find his vids on Poker Savvy Plus.

It depends on which stage of their development you are talking about. I am sure that all of them read some basic book about Poker at the early stage of their career. The question is: What is the reason for them getting to the highest level?

If you think that learning the basics is just as important as getting to the top, then nobody is self taught. If you think that learning the basics means nothing and getting to the top is everything, then everyone is self taught in one way or the other. Exceptions where a top player is teaching his best buddy how everything he knows are rare but possible of course.

What´s your impression so far?

Can we get an actual review from those who read the book?

[x] made me lol :P

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I read the first 1/2 of the book and will finish it up and get a review in the next week. So far I think its a great book, but VERY advanced and probably not appropriate content for the majority of people.