How come your not smart enough to figure things out as well as Tom on your own?
Tom just wants your money. $3000 is INSANE.

Some people are just more talented than others, and work harder, too.

There are only 52 cards in a deck. Poker issssss soooo random. The hands that are dealt, the flop, turn, river. People's decisions. Can you read minds? Are you psychic? I have copies of expensive ebooks acquired for free, obviously. Thoroughly, unimpressed by all of them. Everyone wants your bucks, kids. Dont be sucker.

$20 bucks is the most you should ever pay for a poker book and you should buy it used.

It depends you know. at pl25 I would say wtf 2.5k is my life I never buy this , at PL1000 I would instant buy because its only 2-3buyin and can pluggin leaks. between these limits I must try the weight of this.

Yeah everyone can figure out things... if you smart at least as Tom and if you spend a ton of time. this book will speed up the process.
for example at plo200 you can choose: struggling at the limit with 1ptbb/100 and have mainleaks for a long time or spend 12buyin to increase your set of skill in 1-2week.
As I have read the samples from his website this book was born from a lot of study, calculation..etc and not a product of 10 hour random brainstorming writing lol.

everything is relativ.Or do you never purchase a house because you can figure out how building planning and construction working and can build it up on your own?


my concern is whether the whole book is good as the samples? if yes I would buy. this is why I want reviews.

A sucker is born every minute. There are only 52 cards in the deck. There's barely any skill to all variations of poker. It's all a charade. Someone made up a deck of cards with their imagination. Then games were made up using a deck of cards. Now, you have poker. It's all bull****. You are gullible naive incredibly blind people. Most of you have read tons of books. There are free videos EVERYWHERE. Most of you still lose. I wounldnt pay $30 for this book.

If you won't buy this book, why are you derailing this thread? I think it's someones own decision if the book is worth the price or not. What you're doing is pure waste.

I just looked at the samples from the website and I sincerely hope he's not composing his book with Word/Excel. This would be sufficient for a small article, but not for a book, not for 300-400 pages and certainly not for that price..

its a printed book,not an ebook

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Well, then there is good hope it's not just a Word document converted to pdf

Yes, my bad.

Hello.

Any form of advertising is strict no-no, but of the questions asked I think I can answer that

- The books will be printed and bound, no stylistic frills but certainly quality. Would be foolish not to given the price. May do a highly-restricted ebook version for those who prefer it.

- There are a handful of reviewer copies going out and I expect to see some discussion of the content in places like this thread and on training sites. I'll engage here regarding content to the extent 2p2 allows, which is basically to answer specific questions.

Tom

Send me one and I'll review it :-)

cheers

these sound like the ramblings of someone who is running/playing bad at PLO50-100. For the limits it pertains to your talking at something between 2.5-6 buyins. When you are playing 50K+ hands per month you are looking at variance that equates to swings of up to 25 buyins. If this book can fix even the smallest leaks your talking about it paying for itself within the first few months, if not weeks or days depending on the stake you play.

Anyone who pays over 100.00 for a poker book is a donkey...and always will be a donkey.

fyp

[x] Sounds like The Grifter is new to poker and thinks he's cool saying donkey.

I haven't read the book, but I read a few sample pages from a friend of mine that's buying the book and getting coaching from him. From the little I read it looks very theory intensive, and very good overall. It looks like it is a PhD dissertation on Omaha. I can't say if it's worth it or not, but for a high stakes player it seems likely that it would be. If I played higher stakes I would probably buy it.

is it delivered by several hookers?

Poker books are not some commodity like pork bellies; in fact, you don't really buy a book but information, the same way you don't get a "motor vehicle with four wheels" when you buy a Porsche, or "food to fill you up" when you eat at the Guy Savoy in Vegas.

Now, everyone will value these goods differently, depending on their budget and how passionate/serious they are. As far as poker is concerned, you must also take into account the ROI for the information. Obviously, low stakes players won't be able to have the book pay for itself even if they gain 2BB/100 from it. But the roasted veal chop with the truffle potato purée won't either.

Of course, it is quite reasonable to be wary and pay careful attention to what you buy; that's why it is useful to read reviews, ask questions to the author etc. The samples on Tom's website make it perfectly clear that his book contains a highly analytical study of PLO, that you won't find anywhere else. It is not the kind of work targeted for a large audience, nor one you would sell for the price of four Quarter Pounder value meals, if it were yours.

If we assume that LanceArmstrong is not a troll and is genuine then we can only assume that he's never bought professional consultancy.

Most half decent business consultants start at $2500 per day and I have personal knowledge of people earning $10,000 per day. Clients are happy to pay for their knowledge and experience and the value they can add to the business.

If we assume that writing a book like this took many, many hours of work then there's a direct correlation between time and money. No wonder it costs so much.

We can argue about value till the cows come home. Value is what somebody is prepared to pay...pure and simple.

LanceArmstrong clearly thinks it's bad value while someone who's bought it and used it profitably would consider it good value.

You pay your money and take your choice.

I'd also add that Tommy Angelo charges $3000 a day as a poker coach and quotes both Krantz and Raptor as his clients. To say that no successful poker pro ever received coaching is clearly foolish.

How much do his books cost ?

Angelo never wrote a strat book.

And this PLO guy never wrote a psych book.Biffo is just trying to argue that their time is worth $3000 a day and that's why PLO man's book is expensive.How come Tommy Angelo doesn't charge this much as well?I must say thousands of dollars for a bit of maths sounds a bit steep to me.I'd rather buy a maths book and do it myself or wait for an Omaha calculator if there isn't one developed already.

You can find LanceArmstrongs same post all over the net.
Amazon poker book reviews, torrent sites...
One can only guess why he's so bitter.