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Old 08-14-2017, 06:17 PM   #226
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Re: No-Limit Hold ’em For Advanced Players by Matthew Janda Reviews and discussion

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Hi. I'm a microstakes player (€10/€25 SNG, 10NL cash, some qualifiers to live events) and play some low-buy-in live events (£220), and I really enjoyed the book. It might be useful to post my review here, for similar players who are wondering if this book might be helpful for them.

If I were to summarize the aim of this book into one phrase, it would be that it aims to teach the reader the correct thought process to think about poker decisions (or at least what is currently thought to be correct). It is a thought process that is in line with, and can make sense of, decisions calculated by advanced tools like PokerSnowie and PioSolver. The book covers all aspect of a pokerhand, from preflop ranges to river decisions, and also includes some chapters on shortstack play. The concepts are applicable both in cashgames and in tournaments. Don't expect overviews of what to do in every possible situation. Although there are a lot of examples which cover a lot of common spots, and these include a lot of interesting information about what tools like Snowie and Pio think about these spots, the main aim of them is to teach the underlying though process, to allow you to adapt the same thinking in other spots. And I must say it does a really good job at that. Compared to Janda's previous book 'Applications of No-Limit Hold'em', this book contains less abstract mathematics, is more focused on practical thinking during a hand, and has already had an immediate impact on the way I play and think about hands. Furthermore, given the advanced concepts it addresses, it does a remarkebly good job of keeping it easily digestible and very well readable. That makes it both the most useful and the best written pokerbook in my collection.

The subtitle 'Emphasis on Tough Games' is kind of misleading, because the thought process the book teaches you is applicable to both GTO and exploitative decision making, and will just as well elevate your game in a €10 SNG as it would in a 400NL cashgame. I would advise this book to anyone who is familiar with ABC poker and wants to take their game to the next level, regardless of the stakes you play.
Hi MathrimC:

Just a quick note. Matt's book is not analyzing situations such as three or four players limping in and then you holding a hand like ace-queen offsuit or ace-jack offsuit. Thus the subtitle "Emphasis on Tough Games." Perhaps, and I don't speak for Matt, this is something he'll tackle in a future work.

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Mason
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Ty for your replies....
Regarding what I've quoted, yes I'm referring to the AK on the T62 flop, part 12
Cool, I just looked over it.

I already explained in the book why I like checking (though I can elaborate), but I think this discussion will be best if you start us off with why you like betting and how much. We can then go from there and see if we get on the same page.

P.S. Thoughts on Pickle Rick? I usually hate "non-standard" episodes where they have silly flashbacks and such, but I absolutely loved this episode. The only other time I can remember thinking "oh wow this episode will suck" right off the bat but then being proven totally wrong was the "It's Always Sunny" episode where they do a giant flashback and crack the liberty bell (I usually hate flashback episodes).
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Hi. I'm a microstakes player (€10/€25 SNG, 10NL cash, some qualifiers to live events) and play some low-buy-in live events (£220), and I really enjoyed the book. It might be useful to post my review here, for similar players who are wondering if this book might be helpful for them.

If I were to summarize the aim of this book into one phrase, it would be that it aims to teach the reader the correct thought process to think about poker decisions (or at least what is currently thought to be correct). It is a thought process that is in line with, and can make sense of, decisions calculated by advanced tools like PokerSnowie and PioSolver. The book covers all aspect of a pokerhand, from preflop ranges to river decisions, and also includes some chapters on shortstack play. The concepts are applicable both in cashgames and in tournaments. Don't expect overviews of what to do in every possible situation. Although there are a lot of examples which cover a lot of common spots, and these include a lot of interesting information about what tools like Snowie and Pio think about these spots, the main aim of them is to teach the underlying though process, to allow you to adapt the same thinking in other spots. And I must say it does a really good job at that. Compared to Janda's previous book 'Applications of No-Limit Hold'em', this book contains less abstract mathematics, is more focused on practical thinking during a hand, and has already had an immediate impact on the way I play and think about hands. Furthermore, given the advanced concepts it addresses, it does a remarkebly good job of keeping it easily digestible and very well readable. That makes it both the most useful and the best written pokerbook in my collection.

The subtitle 'Emphasis on Tough Games' is kind of misleading, because the thought process the book teaches you is applicable to both GTO and exploitative decision making, and will just as well elevate your game in a €10 SNG as it would in a 400NL cashgame. I would advise this book to anyone who is familiar with ABC poker and wants to take their game to the next level, regardless of the stakes you play.

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P.S. Nice review, Mathrim. I agree with all of that.
Thanks guys, that genuinely means a lot.
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Cool, I just looked over it.

I already explained in the book why I like checking (though I can elaborate), but I think this discussion will be best if you start us off with why you like betting and how much. We can then go from there and see if we get on the same page.

P.S. Thoughts on Pickle Rick? I usually hate "non-standard" episodes where they have silly flashbacks and such, but I absolutely loved this episode. The only other time I can remember thinking "oh wow this episode will suck" right off the bat but then being proven totally wrong was the "It's Always Sunny" episode where they do a giant flashback and crack the liberty bell (I usually hate flashback episodes).
Probably you 4bet a polarized range vs a std BB, so your range include monsters and some high equity bluffs. The flop is dry but we want to build the pot with our good hands (TT+) and we check the other hands. Assuming BB is somewhat decent, he didn't flat total garbage so he have a lot of equity vs our range that missed the flop, also betting with AK doesn't accomplish the 2 fundamentals reason of betting. What I don't get it is why we shouldn't be owned pretty much 100% of the times here... if we bet our value hands seems clear to me we whiffed the flop, even a fish could exploit that. And this happens a lot in my games, and felt owned too much

Regarding the episode, I loved it too, watched 3 times already and changed my Skype Avatar

I thought it would be a slow episode, probably because I wasn't to intrigued about a pickle. Obviously when he enter the sewers and build the insane machine everything changed. Till now, one of the best episode ever
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Probably you 4bet a polarized range vs a std BB, so your range include monsters and some high equity bluffs. The flop is dry but we want to build the pot with our good hands (TT+) and we check the other hands. Assuming BB is somewhat decent, he didn't flat total garbage so he have a lot of equity vs our range that missed the flop, also betting with AK doesn't accomplish the 2 fundamentals reason of betting. What I don't get it is why we shouldn't be owned pretty much 100% of the times here... if we bet our value hands seems clear to me we whiffed the flop, even a fish could exploit that. And this happens a lot in my games, and felt owned too much
I care much more about how much equity villains FOLDING range has against our AK than how much equity our range has vs his range. What are we make folding that AK actually really cares folds?

Also, why is betting better than just calling a bet or two?
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I care much more about how much equity villains FOLDING range has against our AK than how much equity our range has vs his range. What are we make folding that AK actually really cares folds?

Also, why is betting better than just calling a bet or two?
I understand better your thinking given what you said in the first sentece.
Regarding calling a bet or two... we won't see any showdown from any capable opponent. We clearly have a capped and easily attackable range
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Re: No-Limit Hold ’em For Advanced Players by Matthew Janda Reviews and discussion

You have used Pokersnowie throughout the examples to litmus test your analysis. on a one to ten scale, how competent is that software? do you believe checking the various scenarios ev calculations are robust?
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You have used Pokersnowie throughout the examples to litmus test your analysis. on a one to ten scale, how competent is that software? do you believe checking the various scenarios ev calculations are robust?
Honestly can't give a more fair assessment in a few paragraphs than what's already in the book. I don't think assigning a 1-10 grade really helps more than the assessment I've already done, but if you have a more specific question I can try to help.

There's no way to know exactly how accurate lots of Snowie's EV estimations are since poker isn't a solved game.
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