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06-05-2017 , 08:33 AM
Recieved an estimated delivery date from Amazon today here in the UK of 24th June to 17th July - would it be quicker to order from 2+2?
06-05-2017 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NoSurprises
Recieved an estimated delivery date from Amazon today here in the UK of 24th June to 17th July - would it be quicker to order from 2+2?
You only have to look at the two posts above yours for this info
06-07-2017 , 06:03 AM
Why such an ugly book cover? It looks like every other book from 2p2.
06-07-2017 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparkyyy
Why such an ugly book cover? It looks like every other book from 2p2.
because it is published by 2p2...
06-07-2017 , 04:50 PM
I like the book cover. I just got my book. Really looking forward to starting it.
06-07-2017 , 05:19 PM
Mason explained earlier that the old school cover design was to keep it in sync with the other "For advanced players" books. As someone who's been buying twoplustwo books since the very early 2000's and who's first twoplustwo book was HPFAP I think it's a nice touch.

Honestly, who cares what the cover looks like? All that matters is the content. If newbs are turned off or dissuaded from buying because of the cover design I'm more than happy
06-07-2017 , 06:41 PM
Cover:

Application of No-Limit Hold'em = AWESOME

No-Limit Hold ’em For Advanced Players = AWFUL

Imo.
06-07-2017 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Janda
When the book was published, I remember getting a lot of comments and PMs about how low that CB was, since even many huge winners were continuation betting about 70%+ of the time in that spot. But several years later, it looks like even the 40% continuation bet is too high,
Hey Matthew,

This brings to mind something I've been thinking about lately. I understand that we should have a low cbet percentage CO vs BTN, but I'm wondering to what extent this is the case BvB?

I know CO vs BTN we are up against a somewhat strong range, I'm just wondering how that compares to BvB where both ranges are wider, and the the BB has a much weaker, and somewhat more capped, range.

I'm sure you probably dealt with this in Applications, which I read and found very helpful, but I don't have my copy to hand.

Looking forward to the new one BTW!
06-09-2017 , 03:25 PM
I just started it, but there are already plenty of typos in the Kindle version - for example, in the first set of Polarized/Linear/Condensed, there is no example C, it goes A,B,D,E,F. Also it talks about betting B or 3/4 pot size, I assume B is supposed to be 1/2 pot?
06-09-2017 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranma4703
I just started it, but there are already plenty of typos in the Kindle version - for example, in the first set of Polarized/Linear/Condensed, there is no example C, it goes A,B,D,E,F. Also it talks about betting B or 3/4 pot size, I assume B is supposed to be 1/2 pot?
Hi Ranma:

These aren't type-os, they're coding errors that may have something to do with your particular kindle device. Before the kindle is released we preview it through a kindle previewed for a number of devices so these errors shouldn't be there. So can you PM me with any more errors that you see and the device (or app) that you're using and we'll try to get them corrected.

Best wishes,
Mason
06-09-2017 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranma4703
I just started it, but there are already plenty of typos in the Kindle version - for example, in the first set of Polarized/Linear/Condensed, there is no example C, it goes A,B,D,E,F. Also it talks about betting B or 3/4 pot size, I assume B is supposed to be 1/2 pot?

Are others experiencing this? Can you point to the specific pages where you see issues?
06-09-2017 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Weyson
Cover:

Application of No-Limit Hold'em = AWESOME

No-Limit Hold ’em For Advanced Players = AWFUL

Imo.
This is a classic Two Plus Two cover design which shows that the book is the latest addition to a very respectful lineage of ground-breaking poker books that were written by such luminaries as Mason Malmuth (the man who discovered variance in poker) and Dan Harrington (the inventor of the c-bet).

Wise decision, imo.
06-09-2017 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
Are others experiencing this? Can you point to the specific pages where you see issues?
Yes, I'm experiencing this on both my smartphone and 21" monitor at work. Question 2C is missing from the list of examples. It's at location 283 of 5199 on both devices.

When I get home I'll check the printed version and actual Kindle.
06-09-2017 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KissaOnSokea
This is a classic Two Plus Two cover design which shows that the book is the latest addition to a very respectful lineage of ground-breaking poker books that were written by such luminaries as Mason Malmuth (the man who discovered variance in poker) and Dan Harrington (the inventor of the c-bet).

Wise decision, imo.
I hope you meant the second part as tongue in cheek.
06-10-2017 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by George Rice
Yes, I'm experiencing this on both my smartphone and 21" monitor at work. Question 2C is missing from the list of examples. It's at location 283 of 5199 on both devices.

When I get home I'll check the printed version and actual Kindle.
And yes, it's also present on my Kindle.

However, the printed book has the text missing from the kindle version, and it reads:

2C: The cutoff opens and the button calls. The button's calling range on the KK2 board.
06-10-2017 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by George Rice
And yes, it's also present on my Kindle.

However, the printed book has the text missing from the kindle version, and it reads:

2C: The cutoff opens and the button calls. The button's calling range on the KK2 board.
Hi George:

Thanks. It looks like we have some work to do.

Best wishes,
Mason
06-10-2017 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sirin
Hey Matthew,

This brings to mind something I've been thinking about lately. I understand that we should have a low cbet percentage CO vs BTN, but I'm wondering to what extent this is the case BvB?

I know CO vs BTN we are up against a somewhat strong range, I'm just wondering how that compares to BvB where both ranges are wider, and the the BB has a much weaker, and somewhat more capped, range.

I'm sure you probably dealt with this in Applications, which I read and found very helpful, but I don't have my copy to hand.

Looking forward to the new one BTW!
Just really depends on how strong the SB opening range is and how strong the BB calling range is.

I think the SB opening range would probably be a lot stronger than the BB cold calling range, especially if you raised small (min-raised) pre-flop, so that would make the SB have a higher continuation betting frequency than in CO vs Button situations. That's because the CO opening range isn't all that much stronger than (if at all) than the button cold-calling range since the button risks being squeezed. But exactly what the CB frequency should be as the SB for a given opening sizing against the BB cold-caller, your guess is probably as good as mine.
06-10-2017 , 01:57 PM
Thanks for the reply.

It says on Amazon.co.uk that the book "usually ships between 1-2 months". Any idea if this is going to change, is it just that they haven't received the first batch of them yet?
06-10-2017 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sirin
Thanks for the reply.

It says on Amazon.co.uk that the book "usually ships between 1-2 months". Any idea if this is going to change, is it just that they haven't received the first batch of them yet?
When I ordered the book here in the States, they estimated a shipping date in the beginning of July. They emailed me that it shipped today (June 10).

I suppose they're just estimating far enough out in the future to keep complaints and inquiries to a minimum. They're probably just waiting for the next shipment from 2+2 to arrive and will ship at that time.

Do you guys in the UK get the same offer to purchase the kindle version for a small fee ($2.99 here in the US) if you purchase the printed copy from them? If so, you can have that immediately. You can download software from them to read it on your desktop, laptop or smartphone if you don't have a kindle. So you can get a start on your reading while waiting for the printed copy to arrive.
06-10-2017 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
Are others experiencing this? Can you point to the specific pages where you see issues?
Yes, I was wondering about it too. I checked my paper book version after it arrived today and the "b pot" in the kindle version is actually "2/3 pot". Two places on page 27.

Last edited by laugh; 06-10-2017 at 06:37 PM.
06-11-2017 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranma4703
I just started it, but there are already plenty of typos in the Kindle version - for example, in the first set of Polarized/Linear/Condensed, there is no example C, it goes A,B,D,E,F. Also it talks about betting B or 3/4 pot size, I assume B is supposed to be 1/2 pot?
Hi Ranma:

b is supposed to be 2/3 not 1/2. In fact, wherever you see b in the book like this it is probably supposed to be 2/3.

Best wishes,
Mason
06-11-2017 , 05:34 AM
Hi Everyone:

Please let us know if you find any other errors in the kindle. We'll get them fixed.

Best wishes,
Mason
06-12-2017 , 03:51 PM
What happened to the kindle version? I'm only seeing paperback on amazon at the moment.
06-12-2017 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by george w
What happened to the kindle version? I'm only seeing paperback on amazon at the moment.
The Amazon kindle version had some errors in it and we have suspended sales until they're fixed. It should be back up in a few days.

Best wishes,
Mason
06-12-2017 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth
The Amazon kindle version had some errors in it and we have suspended sales until they're fixed. It should be back up in a few days.

Best wishes,
Mason
I assume, perhaps incorrectly, that once the corrected version is available someone who already purchased it will be able to download it for free. Perhaps it will require deleting the old version first. But don't do the latter unless you know for sure.

      
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