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Old 10-22-2011, 09:58 AM   #61
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

Im 50 pages into the book. So far, Everything in the book can be used live or on line. There are very little stats for online but that does not matter. This book is about how you think of hand ranges. Its more about thinking process then understanding hud stats.
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:23 AM   #62
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

Hmm, sounds interesting. Anyone learned anything new?
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:50 PM   #63
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

Any news on the paperback version. No electronics are allowed in my workplace. Looks like a good book to read at break time.
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:01 AM   #64
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

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Any news on the paperback version. No electronics are allowed in my workplace. Looks like a good book to read at break time.
I emailed miller and he got back to me saying:

"Yes planning to maybe in a month or two."
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Old 10-23-2011, 02:17 AM   #65
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

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Hmm, sounds interesting. Anyone learned anything new?
I'm now 1/2 way through the book. This is what I have learned. Learning to read hands is not easy. It takes time and work. It is also what separates the pro from the amateurs. You are not going to read this book and suddenly be able to read everyones hands. Be prepared to have to spend some time studying.

I am a slight winner at 50 nl online. I have read a lot of what is in the 1st 1/2 of this book on 2+2. This book puts it in a simple, logical and easy to understand order. I will become better at hand reading because of this book. Will I be a able to read hands like a solid professional? Not unless I put in a lot of time studying and practicing. This book gives the tools to do this.

I have also definitely had a few "oh i get it" moments. The section on bluffing is very interesting. What cards are good bluff cards and why. There is also some solid information on making thin value bets by reading your opponents hand ranges. I have watched pros do this in videos and wondered how they did it with such confidence. Ed gives some clear examples of how to do this. I have also learned a bit about reading boards. He gives an example of a dry flop that gets wet on the turn. I felt this was a great example. I would have recognized the turn card as not a great card for hero. He shows why it hits almost all of a villains range.

If you are a winner at on-line 200 nl you will probably already know most of what is in this book. This book can help someone that understands solid ABC poker and wants to take the next step in expanding their game.

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Old 10-23-2011, 09:55 AM   #66
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

Though the book is about NLHE do those who have read it think it would have much value to people who only play other games? Are the concepts clear and applicable across poker games if you spend the time thinking about it?
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:09 PM   #67
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

Yeah in some games it would be useful.PLO is the obvious one as it's a flop game but I'm sure you could tweak it for any game where you see some of the cards your opponent has.
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:08 PM   #68
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

I have been Ed Miller fan since good old Stoxpoker times. The book is mainly for live players. The ranges are lol bad if you want to use them in small stakes online games. I don't know why he advertise it as both for live and online games. This book would be really good if you want to make transition from online to live play but if you are online player it is really not worth it.
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:06 AM   #69
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

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I have been Ed Miller fan since good old Stoxpoker times. The book is mainly for live players. The ranges are lol bad if you want to use them in small stakes online games. I don't know why he advertise it as both for live and online games. This book would be really good if you want to make transition from online to live play but if you are online player it is really not worth it.
Yes he uses live examples but I am using the concepts online and adjusting the ranges according to the player. Just like PNLHE, all the SPR info can be used live or online.
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Does anyone have a copy they're not using any longer and would like to sell?
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Does anyone have a copy they're not using any longer and would like to sell?
Is that legal?
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Is that legal?
I wouldn't have asked if I didn't believe it was. If you buy the printed version, you can sell it, right? I'm asking if anyone wants to sell their license of the book, just like reselling a physical book.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:16 AM   #73
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

Anyone read both this and Owen Gaines' 'Hole Card Confessions' and can give a comment on how they compare?
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Old 10-24-2011, 01:26 PM   #74
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

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I wouldn't have asked if I didn't believe it was. If you buy the printed version, you can sell it, right? I'm asking if anyone wants to sell their license of the book, just like reselling a physical book.
I think the way the DRM's work, you cant transfer the e-books, like it will have specific info pertaining to the credentials you used to purchase the book with.

Also the seller can easily get in trouble because you could post the copy up on a torrent or something, and the credentials would point to him.
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:41 PM   #75
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Re: New Book: How To Read Hands At No-Limit Hold’em by Ed Miller

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Anyone read both this and Owen Gaines' 'Hole Card Confessions' and can give a comment on how they compare?
I have both. I read Hole Card Confession and almost whole how to read hands.
Basically if you play online QTip book is really good (I just don't know what your expectations are if you play nl200+ don't even bother) for live players just Ed Miller book is the nuts cause at least from my perspective it is pretty useless for online games (I would much rather buy his Small Stakes Nl holdem book cause it is still really good book and much more useful for online play (you just have to understand that games have changed quite a bit since he wrote the book and you have to make some adjustments yourself)
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