And if it were up to me, MM would've challenged Ed Miller or Matt Flynn (or anyone really) to HU4ROLLZ at least 60 posts ago, but alas, we don't always get what we want.

It's never too late though - gogogogogo!

I don't care who you are - that's damn funny.

It's also ironic, since this free info on the interweb thing he's railing against was also largely responsible for the poker boom that lined his pockets.

All I know is that I don't buy 2+2 books because I respect the authors' character.

I did not take it that Mr. Malmuth was blaming Stoxpoker for pressuring Mr. Miller. He also did not deny that he was the one who was pressuring Mr. Miller.

It was something of a non-denial denial. Meaning that it really did not talk about the pressure.

I have quite a few poker books which I acquired as a gift, but I have a few I have bought myself and the majority of those are 2plus2 published books. Whatever I might think of Mr. Malmuth (and I am not saying how I feel), I will still judge any books on their own merits.

Any chance we can get an avatar with Ewa Sonnett and Keeley Hazell together?

No, unfortunately.

Having played Nl cash games with Bob, I think he would be a terrific teacher.

I'm waiting for Bob's NL book. In fact, if I could only buy one book, Bob's or The Bruiser's, it would be Bob's. No need even for a second thought.

It takes all kinds ... I guess ???

Gel,

I don't know a thing about The Bruiser other than how he has presented himself here in the Books & Pubs forum. If his book is written anything at all like his posts, then I fully expect his 208 page book to be:

• 20 pages of poker
• 180 pages of him talking about how awesome his is
• 8 pages of instructions & recipies for mixing vinagar and water.

Because every post I've ever read from him can be summed up like this:




Sorry, but it just turns me off. I'll buy his book. I'll read his book. If I learn anything, I'll be honest enough to say so. But the guy comes across like a giant bottle of Massingil.

He is proud of his book ... time will tell if he has any reason to be



But his posts in the strats forums from before he wrote his book and became proud of it are of a standard, that makes me want to pick up the book, tho we can easily agree that he is very proud of his book and his exitement for it makes him come of not too good.


Bob on the other hand has managed to live of live poker which is something he deserves a medal for (nothing sarcastic here, seems like a fantastic acomplishment). On the other hand, all Bob has to show are some pre poker boom books and while the best on the market and groundbreaking back then, some (at least I) might argue that in todays online post poker boom and raised on the 2+2 forums competing with Deuces, Stox and Cardrunners enviroment, basic books on poker no longer are in demand. Whether Bob has the potential to write an awesome book nobody of us post boom online players know. Whether Bruiser has that potential is clear for all to see.


I look forward to finding out if it is a good book or not, despite his recent posting not being totally kosher and slightly annoying.

I wrote a book once, years ago. Not too many people know that. I was proud of it, even though it didn't get published. Looking back, it also wasn't that good.

I don't really know The Bruiser outside of Books & Pubs, but several forum members I respect speak highly of him.

I'll buy & read his book for the same reason I bought & read How to Dominate - It's an NL cash game book and I play NL cash games. I want to buy & read them all if there's even a chance I'll learn something.

Like you said, Bob made a living playing poker before the boom, mostly NL hold'em & PLO, and that's quite a feat. A lot of people say that guys like him and Action Dan don't have anything to say that's relevant to today's game conditions. Well, if poker is in a decline, and I think it is, and that decline gets worse, we may find that a lot of what these old timers have to say speaks directly to what game conditions will become.

I have played in big Nl cash games with bob several times in the last few years. He is still a top cash game player. I have no idea what a new book would be like, but I know that he has the knowledge and understanding to write a terrific book.

For clarity, bob and I are not good friend, I have no agenda, just sharing my experiences.

The deal to change Miller's website is strictly between Stoxpoker and Miller, and my understanding is that it is a very favorable deal for Miller. We had made a decision months back not to pursue this matter any more. We felt for PNL2 to be the most successful, in terms of sales, that it possibly could be, it was very important to get it published before the Harrington Cash Game books (and we still haven't seen the manuscript). Once this didn't happen, from our point of view, the matter wasn't worth pursuing.

Best wishes,
Mason

This is exactly what we are seeing as well. The market has matured and changed in dramatic fashion the past three years and the successful books will be those that contain detailed sophisticated material that are targeted towards a specific game.

Best wishes,
Mason

It sounds like PNL2 is going to be targeted at online 6-max nl. Seems like exactly the type of targeted book you would be looking to do in this mature market.